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Im sexually attracted to White feminine biological females

do my personal preferences make me both racist AND transphobic?

And fatphobic in some circles. ;-)

What if he was a transphobesexual?

Trans huy here. It’s completely ok for people to not be attracted to trans people. Saying someone who’s not attracted to trans people is transphobic is the same thing as saying a gay man is mysogynistic for not being attracted to women. Completely ok, we all have preferences. At the end of the day however, being sexually attracted to robots/unicorns doesn’t necessarily make one a member of the LGBTQ community.

agreed

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https://ruqqus.com/+SuperStraight

Lol, some of the comments here, though...

They make the meme more true every time they speak. They just can't help themselves.

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Transphobe: anyone who talks about trans but isn't one. Got it.
It's not the top panels that irritates normies, but the bottom one.
If your lifestyle has to be affirmed by everyone in order for you to be assured that it's ok, then you're in a psychological dilemma that asserts you've become the very thing you hate...an intolerant person.

Being tolerant of intolerance is a silly catch 22 we won’t fall for.

You don’t have to affirm anything. You could do what I’m sure your mother told you and if you don’t have anything nice to say, don’t say anything.

if you want to mock people, we’ll make the obvious assumptions. A$$hole might have been more accurate than transphobe, but it’s close enough.

"Being tolerant of intolerance is a silly catch 22 we won’t fall for."

Being intolerant of people who disagree with you by calling them "intolerant" and "transphobe" is simply a way to denigrate those who don't adhere to the confirmation bias you're seeking. "Intolerant" doesn't even mean "to disagree" or "not believe in" someone else's lifestyle. The term "phobia" has meant a 'fear' of something, but you can't even get that right. No one is afraid of trans people, but it makes you feel better to say it, so go ahead and butcher the language to match your dysphoria, So, someone who disagrees, jokes, or is just an all-around asshole, is now called "intolerant" and "transphobe" for basically not adhering to the confirmation you so desperately have to have to justify the life decisions you're making. It's your own way of demonizing those unlike you, and proud of it, in an effort to obtain some misguided moral high ground. It fails miserably which explains why so many of you are still miserable even after butchering your bodies (cause your bodies don't agree with you either). If anything you're "intolerant" of your own bodies because you can't accept them for what they are, you are even phobic as well, which is why you seek to alter them to match your misfiring synapses.

"You don’t have to affirm anything. You could do what I’m sure your mother told you and if you don’t have anything nice to say, don’t say anything."

If a heterosexual says that to trans, he or she is "intolerant or phobic". You don't have to affirm anything either...How about that? But the whole meme is about being able to affirm without being called names, something you're incapable of doing for others who disagree with you. That's a special kind of entitlement there.

"if you want to mock people, we’ll make the obvious assumptions. A$$hole might have been more accurate than transphobe, but it’s close enough."

"Transphobe" and "asshole" are two completely different terms with different meanings. It's a pathetic trait of week-minded people to seek to change the language to fit their current state of mind. They aren't close. I excel at being an asshole, whereas I'm content and unafraid to let people live their lives the way they choose, so long as it doesn't infringe on my own lifestyle. That's "tolerance". You, advising me to keep quiet if my words offend you....that's "intolerance". Learn the difference.

But I guess calling people intolerant is also intolerant? Yeah, that is 100% a catch 22.

phobe - noun - a person who fears or dislikes a specified thing.
intolerant - adj - not tolerant of views, beliefs, or behavior that differ from one's own.

Moral high ground - I consider letting people live their own lives to be the low bar morally speaking. It shouldn't be the high ground - it should be the ground.

Intolerant of our own bodies - I do need to lose some weight. Gender dysphoria is a condition (or illness, depending on who you ask). Whether a trans person decides to have surgery to make their outside match their inside is no better or worse than any other plastic surgery.

You don't have to agree with someone's lifestyle. But expecting them to keep it 'behind closed doors' when the same isn't expected of straight people is a double standard. You don't want to have sex with someone? You don't have to. If they try to force you that is harassment, assault, and/or rape.

The meme is about being able to affirm without being called names - the meme implies that trans people are tolerant of everyone but straight people, and that is not the case. My point was, if someone is calling you a transphobe, look at your other behaviors, because it isn't because of you being straight.

Asshole and transphobe aren't close -> Not the same, but there is overlap. As a mathematical proof: not all assholes are transphobes, but most (all?) transphobes are assholes.

For instance, Caitlyn Jenner sucks. I do not like her or her politics. It has not a thing to do with her being trans.

Okay you two said a lot and I don't want to get into all of that instead I just want to single out a few things you said.

"You don't have to agree with someone's lifestyle. But expecting them to keep it 'behind closed doors' when the same isn't expected of straight people is a double standard. You don't want to have sex with someone? You don't have to. If they try to force you that is harassment, assault, and/or rape."

It is partly them keeping it behind closed doors that becomes rather concerning here. As a straight guy I want to be with a real woman not a boy who got some body modifications. But as someone who hasn't spent a lot of time around people socially, I work on a farm, I don't know if I will be able to tell the difference at first glance if the plastic surgeons did a good job. In which case if I mistake a trans for a woman I hope they would let me know soon in which case I would be respectful in my mistake and go about finding a real woman. But I might get called the names you are talking about for saying I want a real woman even despite you saying it's ok not to want to be with certain people in a relationship. The reason being those certain people want to be regarded as real men or women, whatever they transition into. Or that is what I hear anyways.

"the meme implies that trans people are tolerant of everyone but straight people, and that is not the case"

I would dare say most trans people may not care if one is straight, rather the large amount of people believing they are championing the cause of social injustice would be the ones who are intolerant.

"For instance, Caitlyn Jenner sucks. I do not like her or her politics. It has not a thing to do with her being trans."

And what are these politics you don't like?
When she got the most heroic woman award I was labeled transphobic and a bigot by some online because I said the award should have went to a real woman. Not because I think trans people should be tossed in the furnace or anything hateful like that, I just didn't like the real sacrifices by real women being swept under the rug for the sake of virtue signaling. And that goes back to the relationship part. I don't see them as fully men or women, I see them as trans. I suppose I could go along with the charade and call them the pronoun of their want but it would be deceitful on my part because I would not regard them as real women whom I would consider entering a relationship with.

I think saying 'real woman' might not get the reaction you are looking for. Maybe stick with why you want a real woman - maybe want to have kids, can't get past biology. I mean, in the end, you are attracted to who you are attracted to. Trans people are such a small % of the population I doubt you'll ever have to deal with it. And to be fair, it is sexual attraction, not gender attraction.

People championing them - sure, that is always a danger. I personally don't like the term virtue signaling because it implies that people don't really believe what they are standing up for. I'm sure that does happen, especially with politicians, but I prefer to take people at their word in regards to motive for the most part.

Caitlyn Jenner - In a nutshell, she's a republican...that doesn't make her an asshole, but it does mean I disagree with her politics. She was brave to come out the way she did and she is definitely a trailblazer. I have to give her that. the most recent thing I remember that made me eye roll at her was she had suggested that some sort of group be set up to decide who really was transgender and who wasn't. Gatekeeping on something like that...it doesn't sit well.

I think you should maybe realize that nobody things being a trans female changes your sex. Sex and gender are different. Sex is the parts, gender is who you are on the inside. For most of us, me included, its the same.

So respecting someone by calling them by their gender rather than their sex is a nicety. As far as whether woman of the year should go to someone based on sex or gender...I guess that decision belongs to the people issuing the award. Were there better candidates? Probably, but things like that are political.

Part 2
But before everyone loses their rationality over that statement I don't want to be in a relationship with just any woman, I do have my standards.

I realize that you already said it's ok to be straight and that trans people are tolerant of straight people. So my asking might at first seem redundant but I want to confirm what you say. It is easy to voice one's support on a matter from a distance but when the full magnitude of what one is agreeing to is realized, there might be some change in support. I want people to be aware of what they are agreeing to.

And just to give you an idea of me, I won't disregard the trans people in other cases. For example I would have no problem fighting an enemy force with a trans person. I would regard them the same as I would any other battle buddy. I would rush forward to drag a wounded one to safety. If there was one who are friends with my friends I would not shun them. I just don't want to enter a relationship with one.
I think the children should be left alone. And I don't think trans people should be allowed in gender separated sports.

"But mocking people with gender dysphoria which is either a mental condition or mental illness (depending on who you ask) is an asshole thing to do."

You are one of the first people I have seen say that trans people have mental condition. When people opposed to transitioning said they had mental problems they was dismissed as bigots and people justified it by saying animals are gay and stuff like that. But as I previously said, those ignorant statements are probably from the host on non trans wanting to champion the cause of social injustice.

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"Intolerant of our own bodies - I do need to lose some weight."

Pascalean was referring to trans people. Yes he was using the word "you" but he was talking about transgenders. So by you quoting him with yourself included, "our bodies", are you saying that you are trans?

I ended up addressing more points than I intended.

The weight thing was supposed to be a joke - who is actually comfortable with their own bodies?

I mean, if you say it just as an insult, then yeah, that's a problem. There are a lot of mental conditions or illnesses people live with. Depression, bipolar, etc. It is obviously a condition. Whether there is any shame in that is another matter.

There is apparently ongoing debate on whether to call it an illness - if its an illness insurance may have to pay for treatment.

It used to be considered a mental illness, but I believe it doesn't meet one of the criteria for an illness, and I forget which criteria... I don't have time to look it up now. I think there were like 3 check boxes. The thing is if you start to consider every deviation from standard a mental illness, then the Qanon crowd probably need paranoia meds.

"phobe - noun - a person who fears or dislikes a specified thing.
intolerant - adj - not tolerant of views, beliefs, or behavior that differ from one's own."

The "dislikes" part of that definition is new, not a part of the original meaning of the term, but an addition made popular by the QWERTY crowd so much so that it was adopted as part of normal usage into the dictionary. The etymology of the word has been altered to fit the movement. A perfect example of changing the definition of terms to match your delusion.

"Asshole and transphobe aren't close -> Not the same, but there is overlap. As a mathematical proof: not all assholes are transphobes, but most (all?) transphobes are assholes."

And there is proof that you can't tolerate anyone that disagrees with your point. If someone disagrees, they are most certainly an asshole. I appreciate the way you make the point clearer for everyone. Cause, by your definition, someone who dislikes you, must be an asshole, because no one fears a tranny.

Apparently, no one is allowed to have a different opinion of the trans lifestyle without being called a transphobe, and now, by your own statement, an asshole as well. Weird how that moral high ground just shifts according to your needs. I suppose a Straight Pride parade would be deemed just a bunch of transphobes and assholes to you--proof that you'd prefer they stay inside and not protest...hypocrisy much?

The word phobia, meaning “irrational fear, horror, aversion,” entered into English in 1786.
The use of phobia to describe an anxiety disorder in the psychological sense began about 1895.
About 1800, -phobia, a suffix or word-forming element meaning “excessive or irrational fear of” began to be used to form words describing specific fears.

So the original meaning included aversion. And even if it didn't language changes. Awful use to mean worthy of awe, naughty used to mean someone who has naught. Language is agreed on meanings. If you know what people are trying to say and choose to use some perceived linguistic faux pas to gatekeep, you are obviously just trying to short circuit the conversation. Or , put another way, making a big deal about how someone is saying something instead of looking at what they are saying is elitist.

Why would I need to change words? We have an awesome language with so many existing words. Intolerant. Discrimination. Heteronormative. Bullying. How about heterosupremacist - I just made that one up, so it can't possibly be misused.

So if I thought everyone who said anything about trans people or in disagreement with me was an asshole or -phobic, you'd be right. But I don't. I can understand concerns over transgender youth in sports. I can even understand concerns about transgender people in restrooms, though I think the risk is blown up, and based on the almost total lack of occurrence, not a concern I have. You can respectfully disagree and that is cool.

But mocking people with gender dysphoria which is either a mental condition or mental illness (depending on who you ask) is an asshole thing to do. Transgender people have suicide rates far above average, and that rate seems to be present whether they get confirmation surgery/hormones, live as their experienced gender without any sort of gender confirmation, or if they try to live as their assigned gender. Is it the bullying and mockery or something else? Its hard to say. So yes, mock somebody for being transgender and you are 100% an asshole - full stop.

Now if you want to discuss whether it is appropriate for children to be able to get hormone blockers or the like even with their parents permission, or transgender kids in sports, or any of a number of interesting questions that have moral implications without being all about mocking someone, then that's all good.

At least we agree that it is a mental illness. Joining them and affirming their illness does them no favors and disagreeing and/or calling out their illness should not be grounds for being called some made-up term used to marginalize people who actually aren't ill.

I agree that it is a mental condition. It doesn't meet one of the criteria for an illness, depending on your interpretation. Paranoia is also a mental illness. Shall we look through the list of recognized mental illnesses? Because I bet most of us probably have one or two.

"Because I bet most of us probably have one or two."

Probably right on some level...so if I have a mental condition, does the rest of society have to pretend it doesn't exist and help me celebrate it? What about those that don't? Are they phobic bigots now? So says the trans community SJWs.

The thing is, if you look at gender dysphoria - there is no 'cure'. So at some point, that is who the people are. There have been studies that look at some interesting things with trans people. There are hormones that cause different responses with different sexes, and in many cases the response observed with transgender people matches more the gender they experience rather than their sex. Certain brain structures that vary by sex have a tendency to be closer to the standard for the gender they identify as rather than the standard for their sex. There are theories about how the brain reacts to exposure to estrogen or testosterone at certain points in development. If someone's brain develops a certain way, there isn't really a way to go back and fix that, if in deed fixing it is something we want/need to do.

So...is it a purely mental condition or a biological thing? I don't know. And you can't prove a negative. We might be able to find the physical cause, but if we can't find a cause, that doesn't mean there isn't one.

I don't know what I don't know. I haven't experience gender dysphoria, so I don't know what its like.

Disagreeing respectfully: no problem.
Implying that all trans people are just after attention, or are secretly child molesters, etc. Is being a bigot.

The pattern seems clear to me that for many, it isn't that people don't like transgender people for the reasons they list. Instead, they don't like transgender people and came up with a list to justify that dislike.

"No body cares who you are attracted to" lets keep it that way and stop the parades.

I don't get to make that decision for them and neither do you.

I am just quoting you buddy, no need to get mad. But really, I do not care who people are attracted to unless it is my kids.

I'm not mad. I spend way too much time debating people online because I apparently enjoy it. Everybody has their kinks I guess.

While on the surface the PRIDE may seem about just flaunting, that's like saying Thanksgiving is about turkey, Christmas is about gifts, or Labor day is about having a day off. On the surface, maybe, but that isn't why it was started and it isn't what its supposed to mean.

Liberal would say in the last slide "Good for you?"

Depends on your definition of liberal. They are an endangered species.

Me: I'm not attracted to transgenders, but I accept them for who they are
Literally everyone in the LGBTQ+ community:
TRANSPHOBE! TRANSPHOBE! TRANSPHOBE!

What a stupid thing to be proud of though. Definitely a closeted gay dude.

You wish. Proud of being in conformity with nature equals homo to you.lol That's quite the recruiting strategy ya got there. Now I know how those numbers keep getting overinflated. Lol

Heyo. Being proud that your not dating a trans person would be a transphobic thing to say because it all preference. Seeing trans women as men is transphobic

You're just making the point that trans people can't stand any conversation that doesn't affirm their misfiring synapses. Being mentally ill doesn't mean everyone else has to join you in your illness. Using the term "phobia" to describe someone who sees you as you really are is a symptom of the illness...ignorance of language. Gays are heterophobic then, since they are "proud" and take a whole month out of the year to make sure we know it. That's you're logic being turned on you.

Lol you mad cuz you transphobic. Do you really think I give a damn about what you just said when I have my extensive knowledge about mental illness then you. Mental illness isnt the same thing as gender you dumb f*ck lol.

I doubt you have any knowledge of mental illness unless it's your own first-hand knowledge...of yourself. Gender dysphoria is a documented mental illness. If you were half as informed as you just failed to convince people of, you'd know that. Take that plug out of your ass and do some reading. You continue to make the meme's point. Keep talking wit yo bad self. lol

After years of dealing with depression and adhd I'm just sitting here cringing at every single word saying otherwise as mental illness.

If you want further proof I can go ask a nurse or maybe a military chief in medical. I'm very 100% sure they will say it's not a mental disorder because the nurse I'm talking had real mental disorders

I'm already versed in the subject and don't need your adolescent pre-teen "Ima go ask a nurse" advice. Gender dysphoria is real, backed by science, and if not dealt with, leads to a host of other mental disorders...including that depression you suffer from. Not being content in your own skin leads to a lifetime of denying your body and yourself of who it really is, in favor of something or someone you'd rather be. That's why the suicide rate is so high for trans people...they have been taught that everyone else has to bend to their beliefs, rather than dealing with the fact that there is something psychologically off with their self-assessment. Even after mutilating their bodies to supposedly match their psyche, the depression lingers on, because they will always know that they were wrong, if only subconsciously. The cringe you feel is your cognitive dissonance kicking in when you refuse to face the truth. Tell that to your f**king nurse.

Dont even reply I'm done with this crap. I'm tired I just woke up and your thick skull still has more crap to spew everywhere.

Your right on the first half that mental disorders and suicide rate is higher. But that's only because of idiots like you. The trans people I've seen are happy the way they are after transitioning. The trans people I've seen are now older and still happy the way they are now. They are happy being trans. Your just spewing random crap without witness research

And you're just spewing anecdotes that have no basis in science. What you call random crap comes from a long time I spent looking into the issue, because of the connections I have with people in the community. Here's the evidence you'll likely refuse to look at.

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0016885
There's your study...conducted by actual doctors and scientists, not SJWs.

"Main Outcome Measures
Hazard ratios (HR) with 95% confidence intervals (CI) for mortality and psychiatric morbidity were obtained with Cox regression models, which were adjusted for immigrant status and psychiatric morbidity prior to sex reassignment (adjusted HR [aHR]).

Results
The overall mortality for sex-reassigned persons was higher during follow-up (aHR 2.8; 95% CI 1.8–4.3) than for controls of the same birth sex, particularly death from suicide (aHR 19.1; 95% CI 5.8–62.9). Sex-reassigned persons also had an increased risk for suicide attempts (aHR 4.9; 95% CI 2.9–8.5) and psychiatric inpatient care (aHR 2.8; 95% CI 2.0–3.9). Comparisons with controls matched on reassigned sex yielded similar results. Female-to-males, but not male-to-females, had a higher risk for criminal convictions than their respective birth sex controls.

Conclusions
Persons with transsexualism, after sex reassignment, have considerably higher risks for mortality, suicidal behaviour, and psychiatric morbidity than the general population. Our findings suggest that sex reassignment, although alleviating gender dysphoria, may not suffice as treatment for transsexualism, and should inspire improved psychiatric and somatic care after sex reassignment for this patient group."

https://www.heritage.org/gender/commentary/sex-reassignment-doesnt-work-here-the-evidence

"When ‘the tumult and shouting dies,’ it proves not easy nor wise to live in a counterfeit sexual garb. The most thorough follow-up of sex-reassigned people—extending over 30 years and conducted in Sweden, where the culture is strongly supportive of the transgendered—documents their lifelong mental unrest. Ten to 15 years after surgical reassignment, the suicide rate of those who had undergone sex-reassignment surgery rose to 20 times that of comparable peers.

McHugh points to the reality that because sex change is physically impossible, it frequently does not provide the long-term wholeness and happiness that people seek.

Indeed, the best scientific research supports McHugh’s caution and concern."

Duuuude. Why u so mad over someone else business. Just shut up mate and let me rest. I'm to tired for this

You wanted research...I gave you research. Why do you think someone's mad just because you can't carry on a discussion?

I cant carry this discussion because it's useless and I'm trying to help other people right now. Just dont bash on trans people for being who they are because they are happy that way and your just trying to make their life worse because they dont fit into your expectations. They are humans treat them like a human

Seeing a car as a car instead of as a plane must be transphobic as well.

Exactly. Not being mentally deranged makes you phobic in their twisted world.

It's all upside down.