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Speak up for the victim. |  WHEN FRIENDS ASK WHY I POST SO MUCH POLITICAL STUFF, I TELL THEM THIS:; ALWAYS TAKE SIDES. NEUTRALITY HELPS THE OPPRESSOR, NEVER THE VICTIM. SILENCE ENCOURAGES THE TORMENTOR, NEVER THE VICTIM. ELIE WIESEL, HOLOCAUST SURVIVOR | image tagged in kaepernick holocaust | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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Such wisdom. Upvote!
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I highly recommend Elie Wiesel’s “Night”. It’s a good, short read, and it gives a great intake on how his life was in Nazi Germany.
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Not a good example bro. I'll always side with Christians over communist invaders.
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Thank you for making this, I've always thought this was true, but I've never been able to phrase it just right.
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Who is this message to? "Thank you for making this, ......" Obviously not me.
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Yes, it is to you. I apologize if it seemed like I was talking to you earlier, cause none of that was directed at you.
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You know guys like this Elie in your meme are really the worst kind of person?

The ones who recieved the tatooed numbers were the ones who volunteered to snitch on their fellow prisoners as well as watch over them like a boss. They would do this to save themselves and although I understand it as a means to survive for oneself. I do not think that what they did in order to survive should continued to be revered as something special, which the term 'Survivor" seems to invoke. But rather told as a story of something they felt they had to do to survive, Pity for them but in a different way.

The Majority of so called Survivors were generally known as 'Kapo's" they only survived because once inside the camps they told Nazi officers information like. Where the gold was, where people were being hidden from Nazi troops and any other pieces of information that would only benefit the Nazi's. This snitching in turn got them placed into Kapo positions in the camps as a level of trust had been established. They then had to do the forcing of labour, working the other prisoner to death. This may be contrary to your understanding of who worked who to death but you can find the real state of affairs that existed by looking. The Germans of course didn't stop the Kapo from overworking the prisoners and would have been encouraging them to do so. These people were horrible sellouts of the rest of the Jewish populations that perished in prison camps and sellouts to all of humanity itself.

So as your meme says "always take sides" I have. Maybe you should try investigate what these people really are. So many of them have got/have had all these things to say over the years but they really have been used as tools to promote the continued demonisation of anyone who say anything against Israel. Having said all that I'm not against Israel but I do hate Zionist's. Know the difference.
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How dare you? Have you ever even read anything about the holocaust? If you had, you'd know that wasn't true. Starting in 1942 the nazis began tattooing all the incoming prisoners, and they went and tattooed those currently in the camp. How about you try reading a few books written by people who survived, specifically children.
"Just before I turned 6, my family was deported to Auschwitz from the Theresienstadt ghetto. My arm was tattooed with the number 169061. There, I was separated from my sister and mother and put into a barracks with older boys—many seemed to be twins."
—Rene Guttmann
You wanna tell me that this 6-year-old was in a position of authority working other prisoners to death?
I personally recommend "A Lucky Child" by Thomas Buergenthal.
Maybe next time you can read up a little bit and figure out the facts before you go disrespecting holocaust survivors.
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That all you took from that?
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It just took 3 words before I stopped reading.
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Well maybe you should read on.
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Why? Every jewish holiday is a celebration of war and genocide against other nations. Every. Single. One. At the very least you can call their punishment for invading Germany and attempting to conquer it with Communism like they did to Russia as a draw, except jews have continued their genocidal ways against arabs and Europeans, so it's not even a clean slate.
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I beg thee pardon? Are you saying the nazis were justified in their mass-murder of the Jews? Maybe you should reconsider. They did not conquer Russia with communism, the Bolsheviks did that. The Arab nations want to wipe Israel off the map, all Israel does is defend themselves. Get your head out of the nazi propaganda man.
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Pretty sure the local inhabitants - not the ones who moved there after nearly 2000 years in Europe - would disagree with you. The ones who haven't been killied by the occupational frces while stealing their land, that is.
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Local inhabitants besides Jews have become citizens
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Yeah, sure. A handful of "Arab Israelies" became citizens of their own land.
Also, Sephardic and Ethiopian Jews, 2nd and 3rd class citizens repsectively, with the Ashkenzi on top. In recent years, however, treatment of the Sephardics has had to improve as they have a higher birthrate that the Ashkenazi and the future of the State as a Jewish one depends on them.
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Okay, now follow me: Every. Jewish. Holiday. Celebrates. Jews. Mass-Murdering. Non. Jews. And they still celebrate those holidays. So, you heaping pity on the Jews about one event while they celebrate many violent events they perpetrated sounds really stupid. It's like as if the Nazis won and then did a few dozen more genocides, and then you told me to feel sorry for Nazis later because they lost one genocide for a change before going on to genocide the Arabs living in Palestine.
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Yeah uh, no they're not. The only one that comes close to what you're talking about is Purim, and if you know your history, any deaths the Jews inflicted were in self-defense and their actions were protected under the Persian King after Haman tried to have the Jews exterminated. Now please, if you're going to make such a bold claim as "every Jewish holiday celebrates Jews mass-murdering non-Jews" you're going to have to back that up with some evidence.
And um, what Arabs have the Jews gone on to genocide in modern day Palestine? If you kept up on affairs over the past 70 years you would know that the nations around Israel want to wipe it off the map because they hate that it exists as part of their religion.
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Good on the first paragraph,
Derp on the second.

It goes like this:
What the Nazis did to other peopleS REALLY was bad, for REAL real.
What others have done akin to them is ALSO bad, for REAL real.

If the only thing people can learn from the bad that happened to them is how to emulate that bad - and onto innocent people, no less, not those who perpetrated said bad against them - then that makes them the akin to those who did bad things to them.

I never understood why people are so utterly stupid to not realize that OUCH! is OUCH!
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"So I think I agree with what you're saying (?) except that it sounds like you maybe do think that the Jews went on to do what the Nazis did. Maybe you're referring to something like Stalin's mass-murder as what "others have done akin to them"? I'm not sure, just wanted some clarification."

No, I mean what THEY have and continue to do as an apartheid state occupying Palestinians.
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Passover celebrates the slaughter of Egyptian children. Hanukkah celebrates the Maccabeean slaughter of the Hasmoneans. Ta'anit Ester is a pre-battle fasting. Lag Ba'Omer is the Bar Kokhba revolt against Rome, etc etc. Even their mundane holidays are celebrations of killing Canaanites and taking their stuff. Their whole history is slaughtering and pillaging their way through the middle east.
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You truly are an idiot extending way beyond the normal parameters of idiocy.
And on this site, that's saying A LOT.

Pretty sure your goats don't think too highly of you either. Jus sayin.
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Israel is not an apartheid state
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I'm replying to this comment since it won't let me on the other.

So I think I agree with what you're saying (?) except that it sounds like you maybe do think that the Jews went on to do what the Nazis did. Maybe you're referring to something like Stalin's mass-murder as what "others have done akin to them"? I'm not sure, just wanted some clarification.
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I'm Jewish. How dare you say I'm disrespecting holocaust survivors.
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Did you skip over the parts where so many of the detained put their life on the line hiding and saving others? You can't just pick out 1 type of atrocity and then use that to judge everything. How were the Kapo's supposed to fight back? Many of them hid and took care of those suffering too. If you'd like to have a conversation, I'm in. If you're going to keep talking down to me, then you can move along.
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That wasn't directed at you
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Some of the Kapo's were despicable, but they were all victims. I won't paint the holocaust with this one broad brush. In any group there will be people who don't have the strength to stand up and voluntarily agree to be killed rather than follow orders.
https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/arts-letters/articles/kapos
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