Ya, you're right. Victims should never move on and be perpetually crying the rest of their lives.

For every talking point you attempt to use? I can destroy it with a factual rebuttal. This one? It is a fact the any rational person who is making a accusation of a criminal act would be a imbecile "not" to have legal council present. And some one attempting to defend themselves have a defense attorney present wether they are guilty or not. Kavanaugh? I'm guessing he chose not to because he is a arrogant ass and it was exposed the moment he walked into the room..

Actually, he looked rather irritated that someone would make up some bs crap story about him r@ping someone 36 years ago and then have all the leftist Senators grill you by opening up your highschool year book and ask you what "f" means like it's some kind of r@pist code between friends. He looked this way like any other innocent of the crime person would if they were being trashed and dragged under the bus for the only reason of being a conservative judge being hated by the left who can't seem to get over the fact there are people out there that have differing views.

That's why he looked the way he did. Because this is nothing more than a three ring circus being dragged out until after the midterm elections for political expediency.

I’m bored with your blatant double standards and hypocrisy so I’ll simply say this.

If it is just a circus? By the democrats? Karma sucks huh??

Because that’s exactly what the republicans did to Obamas SCOTUS. Delayed it until he was out of office.

Which is highly inappropriate for a Supreme Court Justice.

Tell that to Sonia Sotomayor and Merrick Garland.

sounded*

Still waiting on your Garland tale of woe.

Sotomayor was so placidly monotonal during her hearing for the gig, she sounds like she's in a coma. Fake as hell.

Garland? Sounds familiar. Care to tell me about that derailment?

Still waiting for you to tell me all about what never even got to start.

Not that he did, but props.

Don't do links.

If you're not capable of posting your so-called argument in your words (Obabobabamagoogooknight), I'm sure not going to waste my time on doing your homework for you.
My ego is stingy like that. Get your own.

Why is there no criminal investigation open in the jurisdiction that the alleged event took place in? I'm waiting for your factual rebuttal.

Well? How about she never filed a complaint in that jurisdiction. Anything else bright eyes?

Btw? Since my post was related to another person I had no obligation to reply to you. Did you a favor. Lol

And why has she not file a criminal complaint, bright eyes? Come you have "FACTUAL" rebuttals. I'm still waiting for them.

Because it’s a historical fact how women are often treated by the public at large when they do.

You’ve sent me two Questions so far and I’ve rebutted them both. Keep going hit me with your best shot person who can only parrot things. “Bright eyes”

And whom are you basing your facts on. A reply isn't facts it's just your words. Those and a handful of change get you a soda from the machine. Equal value. Quote your sources, prove the facts. Not YOUR facts. Still waiting princess.

Lol, from this latest high profile event alone. Make me laugh and claim Dr Ford wasn’t attacked the moment she made it public.

Be a grown up and rational person and set aside being intellectually dishonest. You know damn well women are routinely treated badly during this type of event.

Then again? I might be talking to a 16 yr old.

No facts, no sources, no fiugures , nothing. You have nobargument other that your feelings. FACTS DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR FEELINGS. I am not surprised. Deflect and demonize. Playbook of the left and the ignorant. There is nothing to investigate. Even Rachel Mitchel agrees. https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/download/09-30-18-mitchell-memo_-ford-allegations
But that is inconvient to your feelings. Final note. Not 16. But a professional researcher with zero empathy bordering on the pathologic with binary sense ir right and wrong. Next time have facts.

Fact, No supposed witness actually refuted her. Only they have no memory of it. If they had no memory of it then it could be possible and that’s a fact

Fact when we lie we all have a motive of self interest. Even Dr Ford

The 4 peoples motives would be to deny being there in fear of involvement. “IF” it took place.

I have no need to demonize anyone. They do a great job all by themselves.

You are purposely ignoring things.

1. I’ve not stated anywhere Kavanaugh is factually guilty of a crime.

2. Everything you are failing to excuse me of? It makes you the accuser so the burden of proof falls onto you.

3. This is currently not a matter of a a actually crime. It’s a job interview and Kavanaugh would have been escorted out of any other job interview by security for his actions during the hearing.

He’s not entitled to the job and that’s a fact.

Let’s close this out. It’s a he said she said and most likely won’t go anywhere because politicians love liars. Oh btw?

It’s a proven fact Kavanaugh is a liar. It’s only your opinion he’s not.

And because you view the world in a bias and narrow view. Trump, or Kavanaugh could be raping your mother and you could catch them and let it slide.

That’s the impression you give off. Have a good one

The more you talk the more you prove my point. Please give me more of "your facts" it's amazingly comical. Your should run for office.

You want to stay in the game? Ok, prove with facts he didn’t do it.

Besides his drug addict buddy and the other 3 saying

I don’t remember.

Prove a negative. Prove to me you aren't jesus. The rule of law is... innocent until proven guilty. Up to and until proof is submitted kavanaugh commited these acts, he is innocent. Sorry basic law. Ford's story has more holes than swiss cheese. A professional prosecutor (Mitchell) found enough inconsistancies to eliminate Ford's "credible" testimony. But you didn't read the report did you? Next?

There is no next. Ford made a criminal accusation. So it became the job of LE to determine wether it may have occurred.

I have never stated Kavanaugh is guilty.

Only that Ford came across more credible. Not because I support her.

Because Kavanaugh committed ever cue of a blatant liar during his testimony.

At least she has a story compared to Kavanaugh and trying to claim the names Ford put forward says it didn’t happen. And I’m a beer drinking good guy is not a defense

Didn’t happen and don’t remember are apples and oranges.

Anyway take care and don’t panic. He will most likely be confirmed.

She’s nuttier than a squirrel turd and the Democrat party should be disbanded for this political shit they’re pulling. They still can’t get over the fact that Hillary lost. It’s actually kind of scary that their reaction has been violence and drumming up false accusations to try to ruin folks.

So I just realized this...

She's lying. Anyone who thinks otherwise is dumber than a box of rocks.

Get those facts outa here!

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You are either 12 years old or barely functional mentally challenged person. You win, not really but tell your mother to give you a cookie

That was funny. Lolol.

Everyone gets death threats. Kavanaugh is getting death threats. His family is getting death threats. You say something a lot of people hate online and you'll receive death threat if enough people see it. Not finding anything odd about her getting death threats.

Yes, both sides do it. It's obvious by the fact that Ford is getting them as well as Kavanaugh. Protesting is one thing, no one should receive death threats, even if the one receiving them is an ass and a liar.

go commit die

It wasn't "You take the good, you LEAVE the bad".

The show was called "The Facts of Life", and the theme song started:

"You take the good,
you take the bad,
you take 'em both
and there you have
the FACTS of life"

But facts are unpopular on the left. Some on the right have this problem too, of course, but nowhere near as many.

No, Sally Struthers wasn't in it, but it did have some fairly big names star in it over it's nine year run, including George Clooney and Molly Ringwald.

And I was being glib about "facts", my point was those on the left are prone to wanting all of the rewards with none of the risks or responsibilities.

Like Bill Burr said on feminism and equality (not verbatim): "They look at a guy's life like it's a buffet. "Same amount an hour? We'll take some of that. Pay for dinner and a movie? F**k that, you can keep that one." And if we're on a sinking ship, for some f**ked up reason you still get to leave with the kids, and I have to stay and go down with the ship."

Oh man, I loved that bit! Had me cracking up!

If they could accept facts on the right? They would admit that kavanaugh come across as totally evasive and deflective and avoided answering questions. His supposed witnesses? They have never stated it didn't happen only that they have no memory of the "party? You remember every party you went to in high school? I can't recall the chat me and my wife had at breakfast this morning.

Those weren't his witnesses, those were HER witnesses.

They are supposed witnesses that didn’t state it “never” happened. Only have no recall of the party. Again. Attempt to tell me you remember everything you did last year let alone decades ago. You can remember things you did.

Not specific details

Interviewer "Did you see what happened 35 years ago?"

Witness "i don't remember"

Interviewer "you're working for him!"

I didn't argue your point there, about their ability (or lack thereof) to remember. I merely argued your claim that they were HIS "supposed witnesses", that they were supposed to back up HIS story, and your attempt to use that to show that that made him look even more suspicious.

They were not his witnesses. They were witnesses SHE named to back up HER story, so they are HER "supposed witnesses", and they never stated it DID happen. This makes HER story look even more suspicious, not his.

The moment he stated their names he implies they are his witnesses as well since he’s using their statements to refute.

And they don’t refute her claims. They only state they don’t remember.

I will admit this type of shit can get confaluted lol

That doesn't make them his witnesses, that means he's using testimony already entered into evidence by his opponent, something any lawyer can do.

That, at best, would make them /hostile/ witnesses. Or it would, if this were an actual court proceeding.

Let’s agree on hostile witness? And exactly it’s not a actual court of law proceeding.

If it were? The alcoholic Kavanaugh and his alcoholic buddy would be torn to shreds on the stand by a competent attorney.

At this point for me? It’s not about if he was guilty. It’s about 2 things

1. Who was more credible in the hearing. And there’s no argument to the fact she was.

Any honest unbiased rational person could see that.

2. He could be innocent and she is simply mistaken about who it was that tried to rape her. People who pass polygraph test do so because they genuinely believe what they are saying.

But regardless he exposed himself as a evasive angry man who sees himself as entitled to whatever he wants and has tantrums when opposed. Seriously he was rambling about conspiracy theories. He is completely unfit for a judgeship.

Trump should just nominate “great” person.

Lastly? If this is all just a let’s get Trump? Why didn’t they do this to his first pick? Who they voted into the Supreme Court.

"Who was more credible in the hearing. And there’s no argument to the fact she was."

Bullshit, that's what /every single/ argument is about. Trying to claim there's no argument is deceitful, at best. You should rephrase that to "there's no argument in my mind".

"But regardless he exposed himself as a evasive angry man who sees himself as entitled to whatever he wants and has tantrums when opposed. Seriously he was rambling about conspiracy theories. He is completely unfit for a judgeship. "

So, in your mind, there is no logical reason a man would ever be upset, angry, OR concerned about entirely plausible conspiracy theories when he is falsely accused?

You are correct. Things can be debated but this is a fact.

1. There is her side and there is his side and then there’s the factual truth with no genuine physical or credible witness testimony the truth may never come to light

2. No memory of the “party” isn’t not proof it never occurred and Mr. Judges statement is not reliable due to his clear motives to lie abou it.

Everyone claiming one way or another she or he is absolutely lying should shut the f**k up.

It would be her responsibility to prove a non criminal accusation but now it falls on LE to discover any validity to it. And to do that? Will take more than a week.

As Kavanaugh goes? He demonstrated pretty much every “tell” that a lair commits if you don’t know what they are? I hope no one you know is lying to you because you won’t know.

When accusing, bring irrefutable facts. Because the opposing side will discredit you any way they can. In this case, how you act.

Natalie, I respect your clearheaded analysis. You are a truly courageous woman... certainly with more character than the political hack you depict.

You mean Lynn Epstein, don't you, as stated below the quote?

That's a stolen meme, just like the OP's.
Lack of imagination makes for optimal political hacks.

No, I was referring to the courageous Natalie Vance, girl superstar! Imitation is the most sincere from of flattery. Let's say. if I repeat "The Lord's Prayer" do I lack imagination. So, right now, I am saying a prayer for all those poor folks with that much anger, indignation and rancor in their hearts. Have a good day, Vagabond.

Ok, you were being pleasant about it, so I'll let it be.

Thank you, dear comrade in meming!

Excuse me for being a tad grouchy-ish earlier....

Hey, I hope we will be friends -even if we disagree. -v

I'm generailly an asshole, but I can't be that with people who aren't with me.

My 2nd reply earlier was harsher, but I deleted it and redid it a second after posting it.

Disagreeing is fine, I've just gotten too used to the flame wars here, so I jump the gun at times.
All is cool.

As a psychologist she should have known the only way to overcome trauma like that is talk about it, not bury it for 30 years. Oh wait she isnt a psychologist....

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Third gen CIA, Soros friend, hates Trump, ...

3/3

It happens from both sides. And yet? Those on the right refuse to accept this as one of the valid reasons why women keep such things hidden.