Creepy Condescending Wonka

It's more about having gun control, but close enough...

It doesn’t matter what it’s about. Inner city voters love democrats. When democrats make inner city living worse. You want more guns and shootings in the hood? Get democrats in office.

I agree with you 100%.

A lot more people in these places voted for trump - they’d just never publicly admit it.

So gun control for them darkies, yup!

ayyyy boi you tell em how its done lol

Guys, I hope you realize gun control isn't going to stop people from dying. Any terrorist can easily use something else to slaughter people. The biggest terrorist attack that killed thousands of people didn't require a single bullet. Besides terrorist attacks, people in Chicago that are killing people with guns could easily use knives or other things. Did you know that there were five times as many people killed with knives than those killed with guns. Once gun laws are enforced people will find other ways to kill others.

I highly doubt Paddock with a knife would've been able to kill 58 people and injure 800 within an hour. Because that would've meant hand to hand combat, and he would've gotten stopped sooner. Guys like Paddock would rather hide somewhere and shoot from a distance... like a COWARD.

I know that. I'm just saying with gun control the killing won't stop. In fact more people might die because the is no way to defend themselves.

I wonder how the numbers of victims of gun violence compare to those who were able to thwart gun violence with their own gun. And if the numbers who are dying are worth the numbers who actually find themselves in a position to gun their gun for self-defense.

I people defend themselves with guns a lot more than you think. Image if you broke into someone's house in the middle of the night. You walk around the corner and all of the sudden you hear a shotgun pump, you would get your ass out of that house.

Then we can defend ourselves from hijackers and unruly passengers...

A hand grenade cannot be used in self defense without causing unreasonable collateral damage.

yes good thing that kid in fla had that assault rifle to defend himself from all those classmates

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That person is a douche and doesn't even live here. Ignore it.

I don't live there anymore.

But you still have a brain.

True

yeah because grenades and guns are the same thing.

yeah because somewhere it says, "the right to keep and bear grenades shall not be infringed" oh wait... it doesn't say that anywhere. we aren't talking about grenades, tanks, nukes, b17 bombers, stop wasting time when it takes 160 seconds to reply to nonsense posts.

So you're saying that if a group of people are killed in one setting it's more urgent than if 500+ people are killed EVERY SINGLE YEAR in ONE CITY alone? And why exactly is that?

These mass shootings over the past few years happen about 2 times every year where an average of about 30 people are killed. That's roughly about 180 people killed in three year's time over the past three years.

Chicago had a record amount of people murdered in its city limit I believe it was two years ago (2016). Over 700 people murdered. Generally the city of Chicago have about 500 or more murders where guns are used.

Taking the lowest total of 500 each year, that's 1,500 murders in the past three years compared to 180 from mass shootings. Now looking at the total for Chicago over the past three years we know it was far greater than 1,500. IN CHICAGO ALONE.

So I'm trying to wrap my head around the idea that no one on the left seems to bat an eye in the gun free zone of Chicago where far more people are murdered every year than in mass shootings, but every mass shooting they want to talk about gun control and get angry about it.

Really, you're just gonna assume that all those people that died in Chicago were apart of some gang? Wow. My dad literally had friends shot down in front of their houses. GOOD friends! Good people!

Sorry for getting triggered.

A lot? A lot? I used to live in South Chicago, the murder capital of the world! Almost everybody I met there was a good dude. Almost everybody who died was a good dude.

that's only as much as you knew. there is a possibility that they were omitting certain details.

If they weren't shot by gangs, why WERE they shot?

Oh, did I ever tell you about the march in Arthur Ave to free John Gotti because he was 'innocent'?

Why were they shot? Somebody wanted them dead.

But I have it on good authority they were good people.

I'm not saying they weren't. I thought you were trying to say that they were gang members or something.

Or they were collateral damage in gang violence....

The left seem unconcerned with inner city violence in poor areas.

Whenever a criminal is executed, they cry for the life of the convict. However, when some 300x as many criminals die in a year than a mass murder, nobody cares.

Getting them off welfare and into self-respecting jobs would help.

No, you don't see conservatives doing what you think should be done about it. Liberals and conservative disagree on what the solution is, and in some cases whether the problem can be solved (at least via legislation).
The problem is with the complete lack of accountability and morality within American culture, and culture is an extremely difficult thing to fix. It is not something you can simply legislate.
Gun bans seem appealing because it's quick, it's simple. But guns will always be available on the black .
Guns are only harmful in the hands of criminals (or idiots). Taking the right to own guns from those who do no harm will not stop those who intend to harm.
That gentleman who disassembled his AR15 on video helped no one. That gun, in his possession was NEVER going to be used in a crime. If anything the message "Good people will give up what they have trying to obtain a false sense of security"

*on the black market*
I accidentally skipped the word
market
Also i should have used the word destroyed instead of disassembled.

They're not doing anything about it because they don't care about the poor or their kids. If they could they would wipe them all off the face of the earth so they didn't have to look at them.

its a 30 minute drive from Chicago over state lines to easily buy a gun, that is the issue.

Or they could just steal guns and stay in Chicago.

The right doesn't care about the deaths in Chicago because many of the victims are low income and racially mixed. I've seen enough comments on this board alone showing how people think they're all criminals and gang bangers who are just killing each other.

It's disgusting, but not surprising, to think they would actually try to use that as some excuse to argue against banning guns.

Not sure why you just don't just say it: NYC.

Also, how do you know strict gun laws don't make Chicago safer? Do you have ANY idea how many MORE deaths there'd be there without it?

I thinkk what upsets people is the fact that it was in a school full of innocent people, where as in a crime ridden citys its thug against thug. Either way, both are huge problems, with a common denominator.

Er there is no border around Chicago and most of America is mass gun market, plus I believe in American some Americans drive things like motor cars over state borders occasionally. I'm guessing, but maybe someone buys a gun in a different state and then drives to Chicago and uses it. Then again that is probably too fanciful.

That's the main argument I hear from gun control advocates. They brought it from another state or county.

The fact is Chicago is a gun free zone. You cannot even own a gun on your own property and shoot an intruder without getting yourself in trouble. Criminals know this. There is very little repercussions to their actions and most law enforcement agencies won't even touch inner city Chicago.

Gun free zone? So how's this possible? It's unconstitutional, right? Where are the armed militias who were supposed to defend the good people against tyranny rulers?

It's called illegal government overreach.

yeah state laws aren't as effective as federal laws, who would of thunk?

People cross state lines to get fireworks. Indiana, right next door, has less strict gun laws I believe.

they weren't killed at one time, it was spaced apart over a few minutes. If a gun some how killed 17 people at exactly the same time, we'd be screaming about quantum mechanics right now, and not a rifle.

But people understand quantum mechanics around here about as much as they understand guns, healthcare, religion, abortion, war, lgbt, groupthink mob mentality, and torture.

So by all means, lets keep diverting the issue away from the obvious, and blame guns more!

Obviously quantum guns don't exist yet, and the school wasn't a schrodinger box . Freaking calm down. :/ How could I have made that any more obviously sarcastic.

Go back to blaming 3d printed military-style-grade assault babykiller ghost guns with hicap clippazines and I'll be on my way to contrasting abortion numbers and the amount of deaths in Baltimore by the minute that nobody else cares about.

you're complaining about stupid people, and still are convinced guns are the problem. Hollar when you've got it figured out. I know it's tough.

Show me somewhere, where you've said what you think the problem actually is? Say like... 80% of the problem, or maybe 90%. Or do you think there are two different 50/50 problems?

Jobs? family structure? drugs? videogames? movies? fluoride? chemtrails? rap music? group think?

Choose something and talk about it... or you're just hovering. :/

There's your post. ^ I don't know how you could any more clearly be blaming the fact that he had an AR15 when he could do that much carnage or more any gigantic number of ways.

They could review him for a thousand years and be no closure to understanding his mental state, and people raised with perfectly fine families grow up to be assholes all the time, and vice versa.

At the end of the day, you're holding an inanimate object responsible.

LEO doesn't stop people from committing crimes. They come clean up the pieces. Mental health professions are about as close to figuring this out as cancer, auto immune disorders, etc.. If anything, they'll diagnose more pills that cause even more issues down the road. Yet I don't see you holding meds responsible.

Try to think through a little more clearly as to how you actually stop someone who is hell bent on doing this. Oh, take the AR15 away. I guess he'll change his mind. Oh, he talks to someone once a week about it? Take a pill? Common... be serious. Stop talking around the issue.