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The first Starship will be steam powered steampunk:)
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I like that plan! ;)
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There is nothing that keeps both science and religion for coinciding with each other, except for those who are close minded to other possibilities.
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4 ups, 1 reply
Scientists can be religious, but religion itself is completely antithetical to both the scientific method and the underlying scientific philosophy of methodological naturalism.
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So you just confirmed what I just stated. All of science is not restricted to methodological naturalism, which would be the scientific term of stating the method of being close minded to religious concepts and thoughts. And no religion is not incompatible with the scientific method.
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4 ups, 3 replies
The scientific method is restricted to methodological naturalism. Science does not make any statement about the supernatural, either for or against its existence. The scientific method requires that things be falsifiable. Religion thrives on things being unfalsifiable.
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2 ups, 1 reply
Then how do you account for the fact that the scientific method was developed by whom?
The leaders in it are mostly what?
And although the middle ages saw many a theorist burned as heretics, the bottom line is since before that, during, and after, THE Church itself was not just the guardian of all established knowledge, it was THE sponsor of education, the arts, and yes, science at a time when even literacy itself died out in Europe save for Irish Catholic Monks.

Bear in mind that your precious Islam (which you exempt from your negative criticism of religion because it is so backwards in social development, it is the special needs child of modern day religions and cultures), was till the 16th Century the world leader and sponsor in the sciences, math, and art.

Despite the fact that it was predicted in the 1930s this modern era of science would wipe out religion starting with scientists and academics, pols taken since then have not seen much any drop at all in religious belief amongst the learned and the masses.

A personal reactionary distate for religion is an emotionally tainted one. Ironically with this close minded myopia you blind yourself to the very logic you claim religion lacks.
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4 ups, 1 reply
"Then how do you account for the fact that the scientific method was developed by whom?"

Christians. What's your point? The scientific method is STILL based on methodological naturalism.

"The leaders in it are mostly what?"

Irreligious

"...the bottom line is since before that, during, and after, THE Church itself was not just the guardian of all established knowledge, it was THE sponsor of education, the arts, and yes, science at a time when even literacy itself died out in Europe save for Irish Catholic Monks."

I would agree, to a point. The Church also did its share of promoting harmful superstitious beliefs.

"Bear in mind that your precious Islam...was till the 16th Century the world leader and sponsor in the sciences, math, and art."

Islam is not "precious" to me. And yes, you're right. So what?

"Despite the fact that it was predicted in the 1930s this modern era of science would wipe out religion starting with scientists and academics, pols taken since then have not seen much any drop at all in religious belief amongst the learned and the masses."

I don't doubt that. Religious beliefs don't fade away quickly. That has no bearing on whether or not they are true.

"Ironically with this close minded myopia you blind yourself to the very logic you claim religion lacks."

How so?
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2 ups, 1 reply
How so?
You make carefully hammered assumptions specifically geared to be anti-ChristXXX - - - I mean, anti-religious *wink* (except for those simply misunderstood beleagured Muslims), causing you to indulge in the same bigotry you claim they do.
When faced with facts that contradict your myopic assertions, you shrug them off as you have here, or ignore them altogether.

Kindly show me where I stated anything of religions being true or not.
Tho the point is irrelevent, 'cause I highly doubt I'm saying the Gods are donning lab coats and applying for grants pretending to be science wizzes just ta enlighten us with their cute godly secretz.
Their validity is not being discussed, rather, their place in (or out of) the lives of scientists is.

And please don't do that, don't tell me I'm right about a matter regarding Islam when barely 2 weeks ago you knew nothing of the difference between Sunni and Shiite, and that Irani and Pakistani are not Arabs. Even that is reflective of your overly simplistic two dimensional view of them as well as the world.
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4 ups, 1 reply
"You make carefully hammered assumptions specifically geared to be anti-ChristXXX - - - I mean, anti-religious *wink* (except for those simply misunderstood beleagured Muslims), causing you to indulge in the same bigotry you claim they do."

Taking about Christianity more than Islam doesn't mean I indulge in bigotry, nor does it mean I give Muslims a pass when they screw up.

"When faced with facts that contradict your myopic assertions, you shrug them off as you have here, or ignore them altogether."

I would disagree. I didn't shrug anything off.

"Kindly show me where I stated anything of religions being true or not."

You didn't. I was simply pointing out that the lack of rapid decline in religion has no bearing on it being true.

"Their validity is not being discussed, rather, their place in (or out of) the lives of scientists is."

Again, just because some scientists believe in a god or higher power has nothing to do with those gods existing. Somebody may pursue science because they feel their god wants them to understand the natural world, but it's irrelevant to any gods existing.

"And please don't do that, don't tell me I'm right about a matter regarding Islam when barely 2 weeks ago you knew nothing of the difference between Sunni and Shiite, and that Irani and Pakistani are not Arabs. Even that is reflective of your overly simplistic two dimensional view of them as well as the world."

Can you show me a screenshot of me saying that I thought Iranians and Pakistanis were Arabs? Because I never once said that. If you say my viewpoint is overly simplistic, I would like you to explain how.
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But yet you do. Your constant refrain to complaints about Islamic terrorism and backwardsness is ye olde (and tired) "But 3500 years ago yadda yadda." THAT'S the point - we evolved, they didn't. It's 2017. We got TVs, PCs, and xbox 3s. Double standards based on levels of cultural development are irrelevent.

Of course not. Because stating you don't reply to arguments that don't involve reason is something e... l... s... e...?

"Their validity is not being discussed, rather, their place in (or out of) the lives of scientists is."

&

"Their validity is not being discussed, rather, their place in (or out of) the lives of scientists is." STILL.

You didn't. If you identified them separately, you ARE identifying them as separate. You approach them all with the overly simplistic one dimensional view that that are a monolithic entity. Differences between ethnicities and sects are ignored, and any animosity they have towards each other is an alien concept.
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4 ups, 1 reply
"Your constant refrain to complaints about Islamic terrorism and backwardsness is ye olde (and tired) "But 3500 years ago yadda yadda." THAT'S the point - we evolved, they didn't. It's 2017. We got TVs, PCs, and xbox 3s. Double standards based on levels of cultural development are irrelevent."

I condemn violent Muslims and I support peaceful Muslims. Same with Christians. I've been consistent about that, and I've never once defended Muslim terrorists, or Christian terrorists. It's pretty simple:

Peaceful = good
Violent = bad

"You didn't. If you identified them separately, you ARE identifying them as separate. You approach them all with the overly simplistic one dimensional view that that are a monolithic entity. Differences between ethnicities and sects are ignored, and any animosity they have towards each other is an alien concept."

Again, can you show me where I did this? I know Iranians aren't Arabs, and I know Pakistanis aren't Arabs. I'm not sure what your original statement about this is based on.
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You condemn ALL Christians as bad simply on account of their faith. Come on guy, have the decency to be honest about your fave hobby. You invest sooooo much time in it.

And again, as a defender of the sadly misunderstood Muslims, your answer to complaints is the usual "But Christians do it too once in a blue moon and a whole bunch back in the day." Man, we can exterminate the whole lot of them, that still gives no excuse for them killing innocent people.

Speaking of: I get that sometimes we don't get around to replying to all replies because they keep piling up and we gotta go to sleep eventually. But if you can't have the common decency to not even at least read what someone took the time to type, then why should that be on them? Look through YOUR notifications. I can't be arsed to do what you won't do when it is for you to do so.

This has turned into a pissing contest because someone embarrassed you for refusing to engage in a REAL discussion when you should have.
I'm bored with it already.
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4 ups, 1 reply
"You condemn ALL Christians as bad simply on account of their faith."

I never *once* said that "ALL" Christians are bad. At this point you're just lying. Show me a screenshot where I said that all Christians are bad. Your credibility is sinking fast.

"Man, we can exterminate the whole lot of them, that still gives no excuse for them killing innocent people."

Exterminate who?

"But if you can't have the common decency to not even at least read what someone took the time to type, then why should that be on them?"

I never said it was on you.

"Look through YOUR notifications."

That's what I am doing.

"This has turned into a pissing contest because someone embarrassed you for refusing to engage in a REAL discussion when you should have."

Nobody embarrassed me, and I never refused to engage in a real discussion. You're literally accusing me of avoiding you WHILE I am responding to you.
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This is the Octavia method. Start many other arguments I attempt to win the first. It's a tactic he uses quite often sadly.
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Use the scientific method to tell me exactly how a stegosaurus digested their food.
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2 ups, 1 reply
I love when Jack talks to you. He shuts you up quick. :)
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4 ups, 1 reply
No he doesn't. I didn't see this comment by him until just now. And I'll reply to it right now.
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2 ups, 3 replies
Oh but you see mine immediately. Nice try.
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4 ups, 1 reply
I saw yours immediately because I was going through my notifications at that moment.

If he "shut me up" so badly, why did I bother to reply to him at all?
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2 ups, 3 replies
You didn't reply anything meaningful.
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5 ups, 2 replies
That's your opinion. But I did reply.
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4 ups, 1 reply
Yes, I am a degenerate. What's that got to do with this conversation?

If you're referring to a specific post, I simply ask that you link me to it, because I don't know which one you're talking about. I'm not sure how asking for a link to something makes me a "liberal atheist pussy," and I'm also not sure how insults help your argument.
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I replied to you on that link. It's funny how you always conveniently miss posts like that. Lol
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4 ups, 1 reply
Which post?
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2 ups, 3 replies
Guy's like a boken record.
Same line of "Muslims good, Christians bad" jizzfest.
Same lame excuse of "The dog ate my notifications"

He should just screenshot that and post it instead of reiterating the same thing.
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4 ups, 1 reply
I'm still waiting for that screenshot of me saying "all Christians are bad" or "Arabs are the same as Pakistanis and Persians". Are you ever going to find that one? Good luck. I've asked repeatedly for proof that I said those things, and you provided no proof whatsoever. You're just a liar, plain and simple.
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That's YOU in that screenshot, or is there another Octavia_Melody here?

Busted on yet another one of your lies, and you still try to deny it and deflect it back. The screenshot is still there, nevertheless.
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That screenshot shows me saying all Christians are bad? No it doesn't. So how exactly did I lie?
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2 ups, 3 replies
And by the way, I didn't see that notification from renegade because I hadn't checked my notifications. When he told me that he resent it, I found it and replied to it immediately.
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I have a splendiferous idea. Make 2 memes:

One for that tried n true n tried again n again excuse.
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The other for ye olde "Stop hating on Islamic terrorists, 1000 years ago Christians did bad things too, minus the bombs because they wouldn't allow atheists to invent them"
And just post them instead of rehashing the same exact thing every damn time.

Saves time.
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Saves fingers from carpo tunnel.

Now that you are aware there is a notification feature, instead of replying to replies to someone else, how bout you utilize it and find my older comments because quite frankly I'm kinda bored with this childish nonsense a lot.

PS: Can you get 007 Myriam to scour through my recent (public) comments so you can tell that CentralNYGuy that I am not a left wing atheistic troll, but a right wing fundamentalist Christian troll.

That's the problem with all these one dimensional yappers, you only see things as a reflection (pos/neg) of your narcissistic selves.
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"I have a splendiferous idea. Make 2 memes:

One for that tried n true n tried again n again excuse."

An explanation is not an excuse.

"The other for ye olde "Stop hating on Islamic terrorists, 1000 years ago Christians did bad things too, minus the bombs because they wouldn't allow atheists to invent them""

I'll get right on that, just as soon as you post a screenshot of me actually saying that. Once again, you're lying.

"Saves fingers from carpo tunnel."

CARPAL tunnel syndrome affects the wrists, not the fingers.

"Now that you are aware there is a notification feature,"

I was already aware of this

"instead of replying to replies to someone else, how bout you utilize it and find my older comments because quite frankly I'm kinda bored with this childish nonsense a lot."

How about you provide screenshots for once where I say the things you're claiming I said?

"PS: Can you get 007 Myriam to scour through my recent (public) comments so you can tell that CentralNYGuy that I am not a left wing atheistic troll, but a right wing fundamentalist Christian troll."

If you have something to tell CentralNYGuy, you can tell him yourself. You're a big boy.

"That's the problem with all these one dimensional yappers, you only see things as a reflection (pos/neg) of your narcissistic selves."

If you say so.
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AGAIN, you NEVER said that. So stop pretending you're that obtuse (you are pretending, right?). If you did, you would have in effect pointed them out as distinct by pointing them out as distinct. What you did was refer to ALL Muslims regardless of race, location, sect, socio-econ class or individual persona as one lump entity. A patronizing racist mindset can't help but be so afflicted by such a tendency towards categorization and strereotyping. Appointing yourself as their defender only allows you further to engage in such erroneous pompousness.

Since you can spell it right, Google it and LEARN the symptoms. No use pretending to be a know it all if ya don't know it all.
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I know I never said that. But you just claimed I did.

Also, which is it? Am I racist, or am I their self-appointed defender? And if I'm racist, towards whom am I racist?
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0 ups, 1 reply
AGAIN,

you

NEVER

said

that.

So stop pretending you're that obtuse (you are pretending, right?). If you did, you would have in effect pointed them out as distinct by pointing them out as distinct. What you did was refer to ALL Muslims regardless of race, location, sect, socio-econ class or individual persona as one lump entity. A patronizing racist mindset can't help but be so afflicted by such a tendency towards categorization and strereotyping. Appointing yourself as their defender only allows you further to engage in such erroneous pompousness.

Since you can spell it right, Google it and LEARN the symptoms. No use pretending to be a know it all if ya don't know it all.

PS: The quip about you telling CentralNYGuy was pointing to the irony.
Not surprised that went over your head.
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You accuse me of repeating things over and over, then you repeat yourself literally word-for-word?

Yeah, I guess I missed the irony in that...quip.
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1 up, 1 reply
broken*
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1 up, 1 reply
It's truly pathetic display. I mean 42 reply from myrian waffle and 2 from me and two from you. Yea real tough to miss.....
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Truly is. Over and over and over and over and...
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1 up, 2 replies
He didn't see it when it was new but saw it when it got old. Yeah, sure.

Not the first time either. Some weeks ago I had added to stuff both OM and MW had said on a meme IN SUPPORT OF WHAT THEY SAID. No replies then either.
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4 ups, 1 reply
Again, if I didn't reply, it was because I didn't see it. Your argument makes no sense. If I was avoiding replying to you, I wouldn't be replying right now...but I am...because I wasn't avoiding you. I hadn't seen your reply because I hadn't checked my notifications in a while. I've said this multiple times now.
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"This is the Octavia method. Start many other arguments I attempt to win the first. It's a tactic he uses quite often sadly."

He made numerous points. I responded to his numerous points. That is not trying to "start many other arguments".
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2 ups, 1 reply
But first I have to go search through a crap ton of comments to find some of mine for him to then say, "No, I never said that," only to say it yet again in the following sentence.

HEY, I KNOW! Maybe Myrian can do that scouring through hundreds of comments thingy and find it! Maybe get a peek at some of my naughty secrets. MWAHAHAHA!
3 ups
You accused me of saying things I actually never said, such as all Christians are bad, or Arabs are the same as Persian and Pakistanis. You never provided any proof I said those things, because I didn't.
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3 ups
Not literallly so, but a tad disengenuous nevertheless?

Speaking of the astros, look up ZoroAstrians, astrology, and astronomy for shitz n giggles. Also their Magi, who did what to find whom in that book you love trash? Even if that tale was a complete myth, what the Magi used to do is not.

It was various religious traditions that looked to the stars in wonder and ascribed meaning to them. Granted, they produced a lot of hooey, but the also catagorized and catologued that which became the foundation of THE sciences. And aside from some Medievel burning at the stake, throughout history it was mainly the religious class who took upon themselves the fields that which we call science today.

So in the words of the Arani, shush.
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You do realize almost all of the races in star trek have some sort of religion.
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