The Downvote Wars have gone on far too long. All across the site, people are struggling to imrove their comment reputation because they disagree on politics, had some bad encounters, or was just targeted for the hell of it. Well I say NO MORE! This is completely ridiculous. Memers going on downvote raids against other memers, teaming up with trolls to stop the other side? It's insane! Look, Trump won the election, and there's nothing anyone can do about it. Ghostofchurch makes a meme about the hate, and flame wars erupt on it. Now I am not against a good flame war, but this has just gone on too long.
My plan to try and ease tempers is to get everyone to sign a peace treaty to pledge they will stop downvoting/flagging the opposition and help to try and rebuild the trust in the community. It will take time and tensions will still be high, but we can overcome them. Furthermore, I am bringing back the Counter-Troll Squad to help make sure things roll along more smoothly. Anyone interested in signing up for CTS, I will have a pledge in the comments on here. To sign the treaty, just reply to this comment and write your username followed by "for peace". Also try and share the link to this treaty with anyone you know on here who's been participating in downvoting or been getting downvoted. Lets work together to bring Imgflip back to glory.
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ghostofchurch is obviously for peace,
Feel free to link this on either of my front pagers.
Got it, thanks bro. Check out the CTS recruitment comment too. It would really say something having the guy who got rid of Jeffrey be a part of the new CTS.
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forceful says, "No more in breeding... I mean in fighting!"
As someone who's what's to keep this site as less toxic as possible
I go for peace
and plus i''m just a nice guy who what to stick up for the smaller users
(even if I don't even care about the election because I live in UK)
also I know I am late
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Shredded _ Sponge for peace. But also, feel free to down vote all of my memes, I'd be happy you just took the time to view my stuff lol.
As a member who voices his opinions regarding politics, religion etc. i have no patience for trolls who silence opinions regardless of your siding on the spectrum, hopefully we can organize some better relations here. lets make Imgflip great again (i couldn't resist :) )
It's all good :-)
I see where a few have abused the downvotes to hurt others. I realize that's the part you're addressing. I do have a question though, how are people seeing downvotes? I saw where you mentioned taking some over your post. How could you tell?
On a meme, the comments are arranged with the most upvoted comments on top and the least upvoted comments on the bottom. Some comments with higher number of upvotes are below ones with lower upvotes which tells you someone downvoted them
Trust me, it does. If 2 more people downvote your meme than upvote it, it will get removed from Featured status and dropped back to Submitted. And downvoting and flagging comments causes all kinds of havoc with your commenting ability, from not being able to meme comment to having to wait hours between comments.
I have experienced all of these.
I've also been stuck on 2 submissions a day for months now with no explanation as to why. I submit my quota almost daily, so I would think it would've gone back to 3 by now. It's not so bad, though; less pressure to come up with meme ideas.
Have you SEEN the dude's Twitter feed? Not Flaming, here....just Saying. The guy is PRESIDENT Snow Flake! SNO making fun of President.....they've NEVER done anything like THAT before, have they?
1redshoe 4 Peace.
Love - peace - an end to Fratricide.
I'm using CTS as sort of a security presence to try and make sure we keep things civil around here. Right now, it's just spreading the word about the treaty; later on, it's to maintain order around here by calling offenders out when they start attacking people.
I have seen this before, it is nothing new to this site. We must be careful how we deal with this scourge. If we act rashly, then we are no better than those who have been perpetrating these crimes. We must have rules. Not rules that amend or alter those already established, but in fact and in deed must support and defend the rules of this site as written in the TOS. Not only must we adhere to the rules as set forth, but we must also accept the outcome of our actions if we violate those rules. I would encourage all of you to think carefully before you take any action against any other member of this site. Do not resort to vigilantism, but restraint. Do not incite riots, but encourage common good.
I will support and defend OlympianProduct's treaty, and I will support and defend the rules and terms of service of this website using the resources at all of our disposal.
Well I'm not trying to single out any memer, but this war needs to end. There aren't any extra rules to follow that aren't in TOS already, just emphasizing this rule:
Conduct
In any content that you create or modify while using this website, do not discriminate against any sect, commit illegal acts, advertise, harass others, or otherwise make it less fun for other people.
I'M for peace; But I'm also for punishment. When you engage in deliberate downvoting with multiple accounts (bka cheating/gaming the system), you SHOULD be held accountable.
I've said some things that crossed the line, no doubt.
But there's others here should be suspended and/or banned from imgflip for what they've been doing.
An eye for an eye, leaves the whole world Blind. Forgiveness begins the heart.
Truth and Recocilliation has worked in Africa, and Central America....perhaps it would serve a useful purpose. Perhaps apage where people could "own" their alts and/or cop to what they done. Make an effort to.apologize to those they've wronged. All in a safe atmosphere for healing....
I'm just working for peace at the moment, punishment is further down the line. Signing the treaty is just to show you're willing to be the bigger man and work to put an end to the nonsense. Those who continue to talk shit about the other users behind their backs or orchestrate downvote attacks will be held accountable for their actions.
You DO realize that having RENEGADE_SITH "volunteer" to join the Counter-Troll Squad is a joke, right?
He's one of the biggest offenders. One of the most prolific rule violators on this gawdam site. Have you...READ the TOS? This dude doesn't qualify for any "accountability squads."
Renegade has proven himself to be an effective anti-troll user and is one of the members of the original CTS. I'm giving both of you blank slates to work things out so I don't want to see either of you attacking one another anymore. I will hold renegade accountable to his actions as I will you. If you continue fighting, you're both in violation of the treaty and TOS.
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B**ch I gotta join that troll hunting shit, where do I sign?!?
Yes, he is my love slave, but I let him mess around on the side with Ren because their drama amuses me. Sometimes they do get out of hand, but I assure you that if it goes too far, both of them will receive a sound spanking. I don't want our little role playing adventure to ruin the site for everyone.
That's big talk coming from blackattack, seeing as how he stalks my memes to harass me. I found him on a meme I made almost a week ago talking shit about me.
This of course after he randomly came to one of my memes MONTHS after we had last argued about Trump to talk shit and told me to slit my wrists.
Let's just try and put everything under the rug. Both you and BlackATTACK agreed to peace and you don't want to be the one who breaks it. If Black continues talking shit about you, he's the one violating the treaty and TOS.
Renegade has Natalie, ninja, BobParker, and tetsuoswrath. He doesn't need alts. If you have proof he does, I'm all ears. Until then, just bury the hatchet.
All I know is, I was gone for over a WEEK because I got busy, and there were STILL restrictions on my account, even after getting several upvotes on memes/comments.
As long as THAT'S the case? I call this "agreement" a failure. I've rarely come across such rude, antagonistic people online. And definitely not on a site that's supposed to make people LAUGH.
And not just alt-right, racist white people. That's what's become of imgflip. It's a haven for lowlifes like that.
He did continue talking shit with his comment about me here, that's why I posted that screenshot. It was after his, I just chose not to reply to him and reply to your comment instead.
I do not have any alt accounts. I never post anonymously. Any meme or comment that relates to me negatively (I.e. saying all Trump supporters are racist), I will downvote. A meme I simply disagree with gets ignored by me. Douchy comments directed toward others will get downvoted by me. It takes a particularly Douchy meme to get downvoted by me.
So....being a wee bit on the new side of imgflip, I need to clarify what juicydeath is dealing with.
If your meme gets enough downvotes, you cant reply to a comment on one of your own memes? AND there is no internet magic to change that, so we need a treaty?
Liberals and conservatives have been attacking each other in flame wars recently, as well as downvoting and flagging comments which destroys the commenter's reputation, making you have to wait a certain amount of time to comment again. Since the mods never respond if you have a complaint, we have to take matters into our own hands and try and sort this out. It's a little ridiculous, but if that's what it takes...
If something in the internet sets me up (i.e. news, strange FB comments, etc), I will give it a wide berth. You made a very good initiative Olympian! But this is just a meme site, not my entire life. I'm harassed? I'll quit for some time. Very easy (for me!!).
Of course a certain "web etiquette" would be nice, but what do we have admins for? Wouldn't it be easier to change some rules (and consequences) of downvotes?
I'm for clear rules. If someone has a slightly different view than me, well that's life.
I know that the recent problems of some of our flippers weren't nice and it is not cool that you can no longer react to other users because someone has another opinion. But feeding those trolls will only make them bigger.
Concerning to your CTS I'm very sceptical. Do that what Swiggys-back recommended: inform the admins! If the amount of complaints increase they have to react and change the matrix.
Altogether I appreciate your actions for a settlement!!!
I appreciate your input. On any other site, I would just leave it up to the mods. Unfortunately though, Imgflip's mods are never active in the community or addressing the concerns of users. There was a troll on here last spring named tedcruz who collected all the user IRL information he could find and hoard it on his secret meme stream, as well as using over ten alts to downvote/flag users' comments. Tons of people including me sent in complaints to the mods over the course of months. They did nothing. Nobody ever got so much as an email or comment about their concerns, and ted was allowed to roam free. So if the mods do come up with a better solution, I will support it; however, based on my past experiences with them (or lack thereof) I have very little faith they will.
This looks like a trap. A treaty that can't be enforced, but with an enforcement team that will inevitably act based on assumptions and myths. Unless someone is going to be an official site admin, I'd rather not have "civilians" deciding anyone's fate. So I can't agree to this treaty as it is. I've already stopped posting political memes since Ghost first brought it up, and I only downvote spam. Like the owner of the site, at least what I gather based on his public presentation of himself, I have no problem with people exercising their free speech so long as they're not exploiting the site for commericial purposes. They should buy their own hosting and pay for their own bandwidth or pay for advertising space like any other business. I won't agree to anything that makes it easier for spammers to spam, and where real memers will be harassed by spammers for disagreeing. So talk to the owner, and when he publishes his plan, I'm in. Until then, I am not jumping on anyone's bandwagon.
That's not what it says. It says to stop downvoting and flagging the opposition. Downvoting and flagging does not violate the TOS. Also, who is "the opposition"?
I don't do witch hunts, and I'm against tying the hands of legit users. Mind you, I say this as someone with two barnacles in this very thread. They aren't breaking the TOS by downvoting or disagreeing with me. Disagreement isn't trolling or harassment. Even if they see it that way (or claim to see it that way because they have an interest to), I don't.
...and the site owner is doing his job: owning the site. It's his site. He can disappear all the memes and make it about bunnies and unicorns if he wants.
IMO, people need to chill. If we become more trouble than we're worth, this will end badly. I've seen this happen before.
The owner of a website owes you nothing. The admins owe you nothing. They provide a resource, and they can decide on a whim to take it down. People should remember that when they're making trouble for anyone here. If everyone did, then that would solve the problem at the root.
"That's not what it says. It says to stop downvoting and flagging the opposition. Downvoting and flagging does not violate the TOS."
It does if it's used specifically to attack other people, which is the point everyone else got and the whole point of the treaty.
"I don't do witch hunts, and I'm against tying the hands of legit users."
There's no witch hunt, there's just having some common decency. Also if following TOS is "tying the hands of legit users", those users have no business on Imgflip.
"The owner of a website owes you nothing. The admins owe you nothing."
Blatently false. The memes we make generate traffic to the site which generates ad and Imgflip Pro revenue, which means the site can pay its bills and make improvements to keep existing traffic as well as bring in more traffic. It's Business101. The service is nothing without customers.
"They provide a resource, and they can decide on a whim to take it down. People should remember that when they're making trouble for anyone here. If everyone did, then that would solve the problem at the root."
They could do that, but they most likely won't. If Imgflip got shut down right now, we lose a meme site. You and I will continue with our lives. They however lose all the income the site brought in and a site like this brings in more than enough to keep the lights on. Basically, it makes no business sense to shut the site down because a few users are being assholes.
Sometimes it's a downvote party, but sometimes it's just that many people got tired of someone's mess. Unless you are an admin, there is no way for you to know if someone doesn't announce it or it's not in their latest comments. All someone could do is guess. This leaves the door open for a lot of harassment of innocent users who could get blamed for someone being butt hurt that people don't like them.
Many people not liking someone and downvoting them isn't against the TOS. This is why people don't get banned even for well announced and documented downvoting parties. It's in bad taste and reeks of thirst, but it's not technically against the rules.
A once and done outburst is also not against the rules, so long as no threats were made and it's basically within the realm of protected speech. Even some shady stuff a certain person here says isn't against the TOS because she's not coming out and saying she wants to kill all the "black" people or something. She is allowed to be whatever kind of WN she likes, and that may not be my way, but it's not my business. I don't need that badly to be liked.
...and at the point that a site becomes a s***hole and ceases to be profitable because sponsors pull out or nobody wants to go there because it's full of fail, the owner does not owe us to keep things running. He doesn't need to carry the albatross once it starts to rot.
So everybody needs to start treating this place like we are guests in someone's home. You don't come in and poop on the carpet and then act like they owe you to keep welcoming you. They don't. Many sites have disappeared for less pressing reasons. He could sell it, and that's his call, not ours.
As you can see, those with some sort of vested interest in keeping the admins out of it can't help themselves. It's probably going to piss them off that the term "cuckservative" was used on the "white" nationalist site by the initials of CH months before its appearance in 4chan. It means "white" ethnomasochist. Since I'm not "white", the term would not apply. I'm responding to my post so that they don't get the notification because I am much more evil than they believe me to be. :-)
...unless they're calling be a "black" ethnomasochist because I'm married to a Jew.
It was 2014. Do a search. CH started it claiming basically that conservatives who were okay with diversity and liberal men were perverts who liked to watch their wives getting the deep hot tube steak from men of color because that is the inevitable result. It hit 4chan with the same definition, being used in a flamewar between some more and less rabid WN's.
It started as a WN term for a "white" ethnomasochist, and it's still being used the same way today. If you don't know that, it's because you've been lied to by some WN lite site.
But that's not the point. The point is that people should pay for advertising here. If you're promoting a politician or some website, you should have to pay like any other business. If you don't then what you're doing is spam...and even if you are paying, there's a point when you need to be like a good DJ and feel the room. People have had enough, so change the track.
Since our mentally ill bud is ranting again, here is the REAL definition of "cuck" and its origin:
cuck
"Cuck" a weak, feckless, spineless, and decidedly pathetic specimen of manliness.
Word Origin: In mid 2016 the term came to prominence when supporters of Donald Trump came to refer to Republican presidential contender Jeb Bush as a "Cuckservative" (cuck+conservative), implying that he was a weak, testicle-lacking, creampuff of man, and a poor representative of what Trump-supporters considered proper GOP presidential timber. Jeb responded by effectively proving them right. The term Cuck has since taken a life if its own as an insult towards anyone who comes across as femmy, weak, or lacking in enough testosterone to get their balls to drop.
"Did you see that dickless Jeb Bush outright *beg* that crowd for an applause? What a cuck!"
Wow...I just want everybody to know that though I have my issues with the details of the agreement, I am so happy to see the users here pulling it out before the place goes down in flamewars. Seriously y'all, I've been on the net a long time, and this is the first time I've seen this happen...folks who I thought were just gone agreeing to tone it down and be good guests. Don't know if it means anything, but I am proud of you. This is rare and historic...internet historic, but still...awesome. :-)
jday for peace. I honestly have never gone through a down vote war, but the what Olympia is doing is amazing. He is uniting a community of people who hardly know each other, and is making them work for the good of things.
No, cookies are only for the dark side. Those of us who don't gaf and are really just here to make memes and laugh, not join bandwagons or witch hunts, even against people who've had downvote parties on us, both have the home skills and can afford to actually send you cookies. So join us in just waiting this thing out and encouraging the admins to make a blocking feature or start charging the people hosting ads here so they can hire more mods.
I'm not going to stop using downvotes altogether, but am instead doing what ricky is doing sort of. I will only downvote someone's comment, if they are making fun of another user (especially a new one) or blurting out curses for no apparent reason. I am all for peace, and want to dig deeper into the violence and cut it off at its core. As I said in juicy death's meme concerning this, I will never downvote a memer whose memes that I enjoy just because they post a political meme that I don't agree with. :) all around everyone, and may this downvote war end for all.
i.imgflip.com/1hmw53.jpg (click to show) I may have been involved in flamewars, but I have never downvoted anybody. And will not. Nor do I troll. DP4Peace.
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This is for everyone
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I would recommend you read my statement below. I we are not willing to foster change, then we are no better than those who foster chaos.
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Unfortunately hypocrisy is everywhere. I can not answer for those who have wronged you, nor do I condone their behavior. But fighting hypocrisy with hypocrisy does not solve the problem. If you feel you are better than them, then prove it. Act in a way that is honorable. Respond in a way that is respectable. No matter what they do to you, do what is right, not what is right now. Can you see where I am going with this?
Although it pleases me that I helped someone see their own hypocrisy, It saddens me that the user felt they had to resort to deleting their account (kind of like suicide). It would please me more for someone to change their behavior, than to see them run away.
This comment. Calling people subhuman trash is just as bad as what they're doing. Every time you do something like this, you make their convictions stronger and your side weaker. Sure, I watch ninja in the comments, and no offense to him, but he can be kind of a dick. But the way you respond and act toward them, I don't blame him at all. Please reconsider your opinions of those who don't agree with you, because, for f**k's sake, all people are people, and deserve equal treatment.
Just because he's being rude doesn't give you the right to be rude back. If he resorts to insults and you don't, you are immediately a better person for it. This kind of "he did it, so I can too" is dangerous, and exactly why we are banning refugees and building walls today. Don't be suckered in.
Thanks for calling me out twice by name... after people have seen your anti-Semitic and pro-Islamofascist posts, my fan club keeps growing every time you give me free publicity.
Upvotes do counteract the downvotes and are the key to getting your comment reputation back. I just want people to start using the downvote and flag buttons responsibly.
You want people to respect your meme's and stop downvoting them, yet a lot of you Trump supporters went on to call anyone that made anti trump meme's a liberal, and further harassed them by calling them Hillary trolls...... Sometimes you get what you give. Part of the reason I left, a lot of you on here are biased as hell when it comes to other memers and overlook a lot of great meme's, because they had an opposing political view. Meanwhile, you stroke each other's egos by upvoting some of the most retarded and re hashed meme's to ever exist, simply because they were made by a friend.
Troll Activity Detected. Hmmm? Anyone want to look at this DONKEY and say he isn't a TROLL.
I see a friend getting Taunted and down downvoted simultaneously....is there a reason why this guy should have a GOOD enough comment reputation to post SO often?
Aside from questioning my religion and calling me a Muslim (perhaps I should convert, to make him happy) he has a penchant for weird non-sequitors and confident statements about peoplethat he CLEARLY doesn't't know.
Frankly the whole thread should be Nuked on TOS....but whatever...more speech not LESS, right?
Please read the following, this guy threatened me:
1redshoe2 ups, 1 reply
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I'd post that but your CRYING has reached the Mods it would seem. Or did you ask you Clavern for back-up?
Crying with laughter.....perhaps.
You incompetent BOOB of a TROLL....
WHY DO YOU keep talking? Oh that's right....virtual fingers are harder to break-off and take home, with me.... Cause you wouldn't talk like that to MY face....would you?
Feel to give it try. I'm Always available to see Exactly what kind Creep I'm talking to..
Venice Pier. Come giver a try if you like. You Kook, Goon, and Barney. Talk is always cheap....but your words are worthless - like the "intelligence" behind them. TU VALES NADA. PUTO.
I was looking @, the posts above....it did APPEAR that y'all were commiserating a bit right there. You saw what I just wrote you...right? I'm hoping that was JUST paranoia on my part....but frankly - on WHAT BASIS, exactly, does THIS PERSON complain - to you, the mods or ANYONE? His vocabulary appears stuck on the Xenophobic Insult setting...
I know that not all users are aware of the Feedback Form. If this person has a legitimate concern, the mods will address it. If not, they will ignore it. I wasn't taking sides, just sharing information.
But what in hell do you mean about me believing in only one god?
Oh... guess who got downvoted into text only comment purgatory after I signed the "no downvote treaty".... and it's my fault. Because signing a treaty with those lowlife leftist motherfuc*ers is about as smart as Neville Chamberlain signing the Munich agreement in appeasement and handing Czechoslovakia over to Adolph Hitler.
So all you "moderates" sitting in the middle, be advised as to who can honor an agreement and who cannot. Just look at the carnage at UC Berkeley and across America as a result of an election, riots, property destruction, beatings... Leftists, not Trump supporters.
Some REASON that this STAGE of the "VICTORY" LAP CAN'T be in N. Carolina...W. Virginia, or Somewhere that they ACTUALLY WANT to see ANY of those people?'>
I'm saying, to YOU - 'Vanquished, the LAME-ass insult non-Comic.B**ch'....
That it is a DELIBERATE act of PROVOCATION. Like INSULTING YOUR Spaghetti Monster...or Their Prophet.
Since YOU TOO behave as an "AGENT PROVOCATEUR" on the REGULAR. ....I DON'T expect you to ADMIT that you GET THE CONCEPT....
But really, if you wanted to write a text-book on Provocations....Your BASIC little Taunt-and-Switch tactics would be in the first chapter....about NOT BEING SUCCESSFUL. How to Lose against virtually ANY non-aspergery, emotionally stunted, or functionally Retarded opponent....meaning everyone - but someone JUST like yourself....
If ONLY, SKEEVY Sociopaths like yourself Were CAPABLE of GUILT....or SHAME....Your submississons and TKO's would probably come quicker....like MAYBE the FIRST time, that you realize that you've lost the battle - if you're EVEN capable of Moments of Clarity of that sort.
Sure FREE SPEECH....But remember.fighting words and Disturbing the peace. And Briebart's people can schedule a DANZIG SHOW IN UTAH (an area with Virtually NO FANS, say)...but people THERE will have a RIGHT to Their lawful protest, as well.....and if the Breitbarts of the world were LESS universally REVILED in the areas where they plan their "speeches"... Then there would little trouble.
But WHEN the Nazis March on Skokie (for instance) courts have Upheld permit cancellations because of the DANGER to PUBLIC ORDER. It's a balancing act...but one that tips toward public safety....
As we've SEEN...the police have limited options....once it starts POPPING - OFF.
Personally I say that they appeared content, to just LET it HAPPEN - IN SPITE of the bad Optics (for the Actual peaceful protestors).
But if America is Burning while ya boy TRUMP fiddles around...long-term that reinforces the meme that the DUDE IS and always has been UNPOPULAR....so MY guess....the local Dem politicos were happy to let that riot occur and metastastasize.. Which plays right into the hands of far right Minority Whips of your sort....the ones too Young (gudssing here) to REMEMBER Tom DeLay's STAFF ... orchestrating the BROOKS BROTHERS RIOT in FL.
Well - we HAVE freedom of RELIGION - but SOMEHOW manage to KEEP the THUGEE (Kali Worship) - the Religious/Spiritual Equivalent to this Political tendency of YOURS whatever YOU call it. Hey HERE's a QUESTION.... Why you think Nazi is an insult all of a sudden (as opposed to convenient and APT descriptor)? Why NOT just OWN IT? Seems like you do an AWFUL lot of Aryan bloodline research Already....just take the leap of FAITH and declare yourself?
Did you Read the post above? Or were you JUST waiting for your opportunity to make another non-sequitorial remark?
APPARENTLY Our little INTERNET NAZI TERRORIST HAS BEGUN THE DOWNVOTE CAMPAIGN AGAIN. SORRY THIS POST CAN't HAZ MEME COMMENT. (Caps lock JUST cause it makes B**CHES CRINGE.)
Nothing you say is accurate....or worth reading AND responding to.
That I have done so upto NOW....was either RASH and foolishly reactive....instinctive, understandable and NECESSARY...or just a left handed compliment (really more a series of windmills to the trachea - but apparently you are used to that...I DIDN'T know you could even DEVELOP a good callus in that area....and, since you lack the CHI, pretty clearly, for a TRUE 'Iron Shirt' technique.....it is unclear WHOM, or what could be keeping you alive enough to babble @ yourself @ this point...).
Anyways I wonder....when you hear the abbreviation SDT's. ... Do you think ONLY of SUN DRIED TOMATOES?
Because I know ANOTHER Definition. I know how to DRAFT them....too.
Something to think about. Sometimes if you meet 29 ASSHOLES a day....SOMETIMES it's really just ONE LITTLE operative wearing an elaborate series of disguises.
GOD BLESS TAMMYFAYE - ONE or two little letters can make a HUGE difference - they can have Life altering consequences.... imgflip.com/i/1hc1pq#com1293883'>
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I signed the treaty, and I still honor the treaty. I don't down vote even though I have been down voted into comment purgatory since signing it. So that's just one more thing you're wrong about.
I am of the opinion that your mixed text attempted powerplay indicates some real serious issues between your ears, so I'm just going to give you a width berth. You talk a lot, say nearly nothing. I bet your Mom dressed you funny as a kid and you never recovered...
My plan to try and ease tempers is to get everyone to sign a peace treaty to pledge they will stop downvoting/flagging the opposition and help to try and rebuild the trust in the community. It will take time and tensions will still be high, but we can overcome them. Furthermore, I am bringing back the Counter-Troll Squad to help make sure things roll along more smoothly. Anyone interested in signing up for CTS, I will have a pledge in the comments on here. To sign the treaty, just reply to this comment and write your username followed by "for peace". Also try and share the link to this treaty with anyone you know on here who's been participating in downvoting or been getting downvoted. Lets work together to bring Imgflip back to glory.
Feel free to link this on either of my front pagers.
Jk. Love the meme.
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-Santadude
I go for peace
and plus i''m just a nice guy who what to stick up for the smaller users
(even if I don't even care about the election because I live in UK)
also I know I am late
I'm late to the party but I'm traveling with work so much I just haven't had time to get on the site lately.
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Jussayin.
I upvote what I like, and I've only issued a few downvotes when someone was calling another poster a rude, insulting name.
I am stingy with downvotes unless it is a meme done in worse taste than anything I could think of.
[and for the record, I love things done in extremely bad taste, so thats saying a lot]
I see where a few have abused the downvotes to hurt others. I realize that's the part you're addressing. I do have a question though, how are people seeing downvotes? I saw where you mentioned taking some over your post. How could you tell?
I have experienced all of these.
I've also been stuck on 2 submissions a day for months now with no explanation as to why. I submit my quota almost daily, so I would think it would've gone back to 3 by now. It's not so bad, though; less pressure to come up with meme ideas.
Thanks for the clear exposition. You DO rock...if I hadn't't mentioned it lately.
I've been @ 2 (×2) for EVER. I wonder of they changed a policy at some point (I first logged on in Sept/Oct.)
1redshoe 4 Peace.
Love - peace - an end to Fratricide.
I'm glad we all have that common organ....the heart. Cheers.
Are there any rules?
I'd like to join!
I will support and defend OlympianProduct's treaty, and I will support and defend the rules and terms of service of this website using the resources at all of our disposal.
Conduct
In any content that you create or modify while using this website, do not discriminate against any sect, commit illegal acts, advertise, harass others, or otherwise make it less fun for other people.
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I've said some things that crossed the line, no doubt.
But there's others here should be suspended and/or banned from imgflip for what they've been doing.
Let's not bullshit ourselves.
Truth and Recocilliation has worked in Africa, and Central America....perhaps it would serve a useful purpose. Perhaps apage where people could "own" their alts and/or cop to what they done. Make an effort to.apologize to those they've wronged. All in a safe atmosphere for healing....
But what do I know...?
He's one of the biggest offenders. One of the most prolific rule violators on this gawdam site. Have you...READ the TOS? This dude doesn't qualify for any "accountability squads."
This of course after he randomly came to one of my memes MONTHS after we had last argued about Trump to talk shit and told me to slit my wrists.
But you're not gonna seriously tell me that ren hasn't been alt-accounting to death ANYBODY WHO DISAGREES WITH HIM, AND MAKES HIM LOOK DUMB.
I don't buy it. What? Does he have all his "supporters' " #s and emails? Does he notify them to come downvote the hell outta comments he doesn't like?
Bull. Shit.
As long as THAT'S the case? I call this "agreement" a failure. I've rarely come across such rude, antagonistic people online. And definitely not on a site that's supposed to make people LAUGH.
And not just alt-right, racist white people. That's what's become of imgflip. It's a haven for lowlifes like that.
I do not have any alt accounts. I never post anonymously. Any meme or comment that relates to me negatively (I.e. saying all Trump supporters are racist), I will downvote. A meme I simply disagree with gets ignored by me. Douchy comments directed toward others will get downvoted by me. It takes a particularly Douchy meme to get downvoted by me.
If your meme gets enough downvotes, you cant reply to a comment on one of your own memes? AND there is no internet magic to change that, so we need a treaty?
Well then, I too vote for peace, because war sux ballz.
Good on you guys for taking it on this way.
BUT:
If something in the internet sets me up (i.e. news, strange FB comments, etc), I will give it a wide berth. You made a very good initiative Olympian! But this is just a meme site, not my entire life. I'm harassed? I'll quit for some time. Very easy (for me!!).
Of course a certain "web etiquette" would be nice, but what do we have admins for? Wouldn't it be easier to change some rules (and consequences) of downvotes?
I'm for clear rules. If someone has a slightly different view than me, well that's life.
I know that the recent problems of some of our flippers weren't nice and it is not cool that you can no longer react to other users because someone has another opinion. But feeding those trolls will only make them bigger.
Concerning to your CTS I'm very sceptical. Do that what Swiggys-back recommended: inform the admins! If the amount of complaints increase they have to react and change the matrix.
Altogether I appreciate your actions for a settlement!!!
Rocc43 for peace
I don't do witch hunts, and I'm against tying the hands of legit users. Mind you, I say this as someone with two barnacles in this very thread. They aren't breaking the TOS by downvoting or disagreeing with me. Disagreement isn't trolling or harassment. Even if they see it that way (or claim to see it that way because they have an interest to), I don't.
...and the site owner is doing his job: owning the site. It's his site. He can disappear all the memes and make it about bunnies and unicorns if he wants.
IMO, people need to chill. If we become more trouble than we're worth, this will end badly. I've seen this happen before.
The owner of a website owes you nothing. The admins owe you nothing. They provide a resource, and they can decide on a whim to take it down. People should remember that when they're making trouble for anyone here. If everyone did, then that would solve the problem at the root.
It does if it's used specifically to attack other people, which is the point everyone else got and the whole point of the treaty.
"I don't do witch hunts, and I'm against tying the hands of legit users."
There's no witch hunt, there's just having some common decency. Also if following TOS is "tying the hands of legit users", those users have no business on Imgflip.
"The owner of a website owes you nothing. The admins owe you nothing."
Blatently false. The memes we make generate traffic to the site which generates ad and Imgflip Pro revenue, which means the site can pay its bills and make improvements to keep existing traffic as well as bring in more traffic. It's Business101. The service is nothing without customers.
"They provide a resource, and they can decide on a whim to take it down. People should remember that when they're making trouble for anyone here. If everyone did, then that would solve the problem at the root."
They could do that, but they most likely won't. If Imgflip got shut down right now, we lose a meme site. You and I will continue with our lives. They however lose all the income the site brought in and a site like this brings in more than enough to keep the lights on. Basically, it makes no business sense to shut the site down because a few users are being assholes.
Many people not liking someone and downvoting them isn't against the TOS. This is why people don't get banned even for well announced and documented downvoting parties. It's in bad taste and reeks of thirst, but it's not technically against the rules.
A once and done outburst is also not against the rules, so long as no threats were made and it's basically within the realm of protected speech. Even some shady stuff a certain person here says isn't against the TOS because she's not coming out and saying she wants to kill all the "black" people or something. She is allowed to be whatever kind of WN she likes, and that may not be my way, but it's not my business. I don't need that badly to be liked.
...and at the point that a site becomes a s***hole and ceases to be profitable because sponsors pull out or nobody wants to go there because it's full of fail, the owner does not owe us to keep things running. He doesn't need to carry the albatross once it starts to rot.
So everybody needs to start treating this place like we are guests in someone's home. You don't come in and poop on the carpet and then act like they owe you to keep welcoming you. They don't. Many sites have disappeared for less pressing reasons. He could sell it, and that's his call, not ours.
...unless they're calling be a "black" ethnomasochist because I'm married to a Jew.
Nah...
It was 2014. Do a search. CH started it claiming basically that conservatives who were okay with diversity and liberal men were perverts who liked to watch their wives getting the deep hot tube steak from men of color because that is the inevitable result. It hit 4chan with the same definition, being used in a flamewar between some more and less rabid WN's.
It started as a WN term for a "white" ethnomasochist, and it's still being used the same way today. If you don't know that, it's because you've been lied to by some WN lite site.
But that's not the point. The point is that people should pay for advertising here. If you're promoting a politician or some website, you should have to pay like any other business. If you don't then what you're doing is spam...and even if you are paying, there's a point when you need to be like a good DJ and feel the room. People have had enough, so change the track.
cuck
"Cuck" a weak, feckless, spineless, and decidedly pathetic specimen of manliness.
Word Origin: In mid 2016 the term came to prominence when supporters of Donald Trump came to refer to Republican presidential contender Jeb Bush as a "Cuckservative" (cuck+conservative), implying that he was a weak, testicle-lacking, creampuff of man, and a poor representative of what Trump-supporters considered proper GOP presidential timber. Jeb responded by effectively proving them right. The term Cuck has since taken a life if its own as an insult towards anyone who comes across as femmy, weak, or lacking in enough testosterone to get their balls to drop.
"Did you see that dickless Jeb Bush outright *beg* that crowd for an applause? What a cuck!"
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cuck
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LicensedYandere for peace
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this needs to end now!
Reach out and change hearts with Love and Intelligence.
The moral Arc of the Universe is Long... But it Bends towards Justice.
What I said is not any more hurtful than what he says.
- I do not think it means what you think it means....but how would I know! I sent a question en meme ... But my reply was a downvote....
Funny ass shit.
But then I realized....this guy is WAY douchy-er than the Guy they hit.
Order restored. Crisis Averted.
Cause Christians have killed a few a gays, too.
;)
Bet YOU no how to reach me quietly.... Please do. I have something I would like to show you...I'm still learning my own LIFE HACKS.
Beware of hansome1. He's a doosh.
I see a friend getting Taunted and down downvoted simultaneously....is there a reason why this guy should have a GOOD enough comment reputation to post SO often?
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Aside from questioning my religion and calling me a Muslim (perhaps I should convert, to make him happy) he has a penchant for weird non-sequitors and confident statements about peoplethat he CLEARLY doesn't't know.
Frankly the whole thread should be Nuked on TOS....but whatever...more speech not LESS, right?
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The Price of Liberty is Eternal Vigilance.
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I'd post that but your CRYING has reached the Mods it would seem. Or did you ask you Clavern for back-up?
Crying with laughter.....perhaps.
You incompetent BOOB of a TROLL....
WHY DO YOU keep talking? Oh that's right....virtual fingers are harder to break-off and take home, with me.... Cause you wouldn't talk like that to MY face....would you?
Feel to give it try. I'm Always available to see Exactly what kind Creep I'm talking to..
Venice Pier. Come giver a try if you like. You Kook, Goon, and Barney. Talk is always cheap....but your words are worthless - like the "intelligence" behind them. TU VALES NADA. PUTO.
Also sent another one that him and his 'friend' sound identical in phrasing, use of caps, temperament, etc,,
But what in hell do you mean about me believing in only one god?
So all you "moderates" sitting in the middle, be advised as to who can honor an agreement and who cannot. Just look at the carnage at UC Berkeley and across America as a result of an election, riots, property destruction, beatings... Leftists, not Trump supporters.
But I think that you "might have....said a few things...." - as we ALL have.
I Can't Tell for Sure...at present.
Some REASON that this STAGE of the "VICTORY" LAP CAN'T be in N. Carolina...W. Virginia, or Somewhere that they ACTUALLY WANT to see ANY of those people?'>
That it is a DELIBERATE act of PROVOCATION. Like INSULTING YOUR Spaghetti Monster...or Their Prophet.
Since YOU TOO behave as an "AGENT PROVOCATEUR" on the REGULAR. ....I DON'T expect you to ADMIT that you GET THE CONCEPT....
But really, if you wanted to write a text-book on Provocations....Your BASIC little Taunt-and-Switch tactics would be in the first chapter....about NOT BEING SUCCESSFUL. How to Lose against virtually ANY non-aspergery, emotionally stunted, or functionally Retarded opponent....meaning everyone - but someone JUST like yourself....
If ONLY, SKEEVY Sociopaths like yourself Were CAPABLE of GUILT....or SHAME....Your submississons and TKO's would probably come quicker....like MAYBE the FIRST time, that you realize that you've lost the battle - if you're EVEN capable of Moments of Clarity of that sort.
Sure FREE SPEECH....But remember.fighting words and Disturbing the peace. And Briebart's people can schedule a DANZIG SHOW IN UTAH (an area with Virtually NO FANS, say)...but people THERE will have a RIGHT to Their lawful protest, as well.....and if the Breitbarts of the world were LESS universally REVILED in the areas where they plan their "speeches"... Then there would little trouble.
But WHEN the Nazis March on Skokie (for instance) courts have Upheld permit cancellations because of the DANGER to PUBLIC ORDER. It's a balancing act...but one that tips toward public safety....
As we've SEEN...the police have limited options....once it starts POPPING - OFF.
Personally I say that they appeared content, to just LET it HAPPEN - IN SPITE of the bad Optics (for the Actual peaceful protestors).
But if America is Burning while ya boy TRUMP fiddles around...long-term that reinforces the meme that the DUDE IS and always has been UNPOPULAR....so MY guess....the local Dem politicos were happy to let that riot occur and metastastasize.. Which plays right into the hands of far right Minority Whips of your sort....the ones too Young (gudssing here) to REMEMBER Tom DeLay's STAFF ... orchestrating the BROOKS BROTHERS RIOT in FL.
Did you Read the post above? Or were you JUST waiting for your opportunity to make another non-sequitorial remark?
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APPARENTLY Our little INTERNET NAZI TERRORIST HAS BEGUN THE DOWNVOTE CAMPAIGN AGAIN. SORRY THIS POST CAN't HAZ MEME COMMENT. (Caps lock JUST cause it makes B**CHES CRINGE.)
Nothing you say is accurate....or worth reading AND responding to.
That I have done so upto NOW....was either RASH and foolishly reactive....instinctive, understandable and NECESSARY...or just a left handed compliment (really more a series of windmills to the trachea - but apparently you are used to that...I DIDN'T know you could even DEVELOP a good callus in that area....and, since you lack the CHI, pretty clearly, for a TRUE 'Iron Shirt' technique.....it is unclear WHOM, or what could be keeping you alive enough to babble @ yourself @ this point...).
Anyways I wonder....when you hear the abbreviation SDT's. ... Do you think ONLY of SUN DRIED TOMATOES?
Because I know ANOTHER Definition. I know how to DRAFT them....too.
Something to think about. Sometimes if you meet 29 ASSHOLES a day....SOMETIMES it's really just ONE LITTLE operative wearing an elaborate series of disguises.
GOD BLESS TAMMYFAYE - ONE or two little letters can make a HUGE difference - they can have Life altering consequences....
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I am of the opinion that your mixed text attempted powerplay indicates some real serious issues between your ears, so I'm just going to give you a width berth. You talk a lot, say nearly nothing. I bet your Mom dressed you funny as a kid and you never recovered...