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im just gonna make it short free Palestine
isreal are killer
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isreal (wrong spelling) is a terrorist country
2 ups, 7y
Unfortunately true. Going back to the Hagganah Begin and Ben Gurion.

But one hopes that a process of TRUTH AND RECOCILLIATION could work there, too.
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There can be peace, it's really simple, stop firing rockets around 24/7 like idiots. :O I know, super shockingly difficult for people to understand.
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http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Foreign-Policy/2016/1228/John-Kerry-on-Mideast-peace-Nearing-a-point-of-no-return
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Q: Are the rockets coming from F-16's and Naval vessels (not to mention artillery from those same ships, tanks and infantry to boot) any different from the Katusha Rockets fired by the HAMAS organization?

A: Yes. In Several important ways...firstly the Israeli Rockets are fired by an ACCOUNTABLE ORGANIZATION (granted with US help...the STATE OF ISRAEL routinely commits INTERNATIONALLY RECOGNIZED WAR CRIMES with COMPLETE IMMUNITY.....but let us just imagine a world where International Law and Justice are more than an ironic and cynical obfuscation and mass manipulation. And in event...) as a NOMINAL "Democracy" - in theory @ least - Israel could be forced to STOP firing based upon PUBLIC PRESSURE, or a non-VacuumCleanerOperation Peace Movement (Shin Beyt seems to run most of the Israeli left and JSreet factions). The perpetrators of the much Bally-hooed Palestinian Rocket attacks are generally unidentified...but to the extent that these impotent and near harmless expressions of (what qualifies as LAWFUL) Resistance (-against an UNLAWFUL OCCUPYING MILITARY POWER) can be established - It appears to be a break-away faction of HAMAS - which DOES NOT take orders from the Democratic or other power structures of HAMAS as a political movement or Government. So where the Israelis could theoretically rise up against the War Mongers in their Government...and demand that they Sue for Peace - Palestinians have no such viable route, to ending the regrettable and COUNTER- PRODUCTIVE actions of individual guerrillas.

In fact since the Israelis Countenanced Sheik Yassin's Founding of HAMAS - through the HOLY LAND FOUNDATION - which they Allowed to come into existence, despite a declared goal of destroying the Zionist STATE....it could be argued that they caused the problems they now complain of. And since these rocketeers seem to provide ENDLESS justification for Israeli Aggression against the Palestinian Civilian Population....one MUST WONDER if they aren't working FOR the Mossad....and Against the Palestianans' Cause.

And for Islamo-phobes - it should be NOTED that while HAMAS (created with Israeli approval) is a fundamentalist ISLAMIST movement...the PLO was a SECULAR movement which UNITED Christians, Jews, Muslims and others Indigenous to the area of Palestine against their common oppressor...HAMAS has always helped Israel Divide and Conquer the Palestinian people.

Secondly - Scale and effectiveness. Israeli Military Actions Kill thousands on the regular.
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And @ a ridiculously LOP-SIDED pace. 100:1 is it? Depends on when we start counting probably...but it IS clear who presents an existential threat to whom... And Palestinian Rocketry Victims are almost non-existent in compairuson to the Numbers of Palestinians killed, made homeless, food insecure and without sanitation or power....the numbers become insignificant. The vast result of Israeli casualties are Suffered by Military Personelle - of AN ILLEGALLY OCCUPYING POWER (fair game under the laws of war) - the Inverse is true on the Palestinian side.

And of Course the Katushas ostensibly being fired by Palestinian forces are incapable of accurate targeting - and virtually HARMLESS - lying on the ground was deemed adequate protection for Israeli Arab Bedouins by the IDF... who didn't want to pay for an Iron Shield system outside the cities...and noted that there was little to no threat posed by the Rocket Attacks - provided you lie down or take cover.

Lastly...those Katushas aren't being provided to the Palestinians by OUR GOVERNMENT - in violation of our Laws and Various Treaties.

So on many levels this comment above represents a cynical manipulation of the facts to the benefit of one side.

A side which ACTUALLY claims to KNOW BETTER THAN and SPEAK FOR the men you see in the meme above.
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No it's simple, you make it complicated. Stop firing rockets indiscriminately into a country 24/7 and war stops. That's it.
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So then, ... your goal ISN'T to Ethnically Cleanse Greater Judea and Samaria of Palestinians?

Then why round up thousands - when allegedly looking for a kidnap victim? And when you KNEW who did it?

Also COLLECTIVE PUNISHMENT. Since ALL the Palestinians in GAZA are living under a Military Occupation , ongoing horrific war crimes and Human Rights violations - not to mention arbitrarily imposed caloric restrictions - for the CONSTANT 24/7 attacks (that harm next to no one) of a FEW.

Should ALL Israelis bear the APPROPRIATE PUNISHMENT for the Entire gamut of war crimes comityef in their names? It seems that you would ahtee to this - based on your own logic.
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That is SIMPLY a FALSEHOOD.

The HARMLESS AND SYMBOLIC "Rocket attacks" occurr infrequently. While the PEOPLE of GAZA are STARVED CONSTANTLY and INTENTIONALLY by the Israelis who Control INGRESS/EGRESS from/to the territories - and use that control to PREVENT adequate calories from reaching those that they haven't MURDERED ALREADY. Like COWARDS - firing on a UN school FULL of SLEEPING Children.

Do you WORK @ the Consulate? Your line of DISINFORMATION is a FAMILIAR ONE. Usually the LIAR (SPOOK/Diplomat) who works there usually MINIMIZES Atrocities against Palestinian Civilians and then issues Crocodile Tears. You merely IGNORE the point repeatedly.

But like CNN where you Don' TOTALLY IGNORE those INTERNATIONALLY RECOGNIZED CRIMES OF WAR. YOU in your ROLE as accessory (likely before and certainly) after the fact - try to JUSTIFY them. If it works...that's one hell of a Jedi mind trick. But.those only work on the gullible (like yourself). Right now the NK guys at the top of the page are winning the debate.

But apparently FACTS DON'T MATTER. So Tell us when WAS the LAST ROCKET FIRED. Please.Give us the name age and occupation of each injured party...status and prognosis if possible. THAT would prove to a reasonable reader that you're NOT just LYING about the facts on the ground.....as Israeli Strategists and surrogates do when they AREN''T speaking to the GREATER ISRAEL to crowd of JEWISH Chauvinists and Fascist Sympathizers....
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Over 25,000 rockets launched into Israel since 2001 and you want to go into specifics of which rocket did what? I've read all of your racism, and everyone else's racism on the internet on this topic, and it's the typical drivel... You haven't said anything new. I guess it isn't surprising since you all copy/paste from the same website. I guess I was hoping for something new, an actual discussion.

But the reality is, there's nothing to see here. You don't offer anything new to the topic, the group you liked wanted that area for themselves, wouldn't share it, and they simply couldn't hold it (as usual), and now you aren't getting your own way, and now you're throwing a huge fit. As soon as you grow up and start acting like an adult, you're welcome back to the adult table whenever you want.

Go copy/paste that crap from whatever website it's from somewhere else. It's old and tired.
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Wait WHAT? Neteurei Karta were disgruntled Settlers? Chevurot. Just Don't believe in a POLITICAL ZIONIST ENTITY....which was established by someone other than Moshiach. Scrub. They also (asTorah Faithful Jews) oppose Warcrimes and genocide (not specifically countenanced by Moshiach or Adonai - depending on when we talking' 'bout) - I'm Guessing.

Racism? Zionism WAS the minority position within world Jewery prior to WW II. Racist like Finklestein. You're a Fascist like Dershowitz. And I'm just turning your werkes of Dethe into a PostModern Guernica. And You hate DEGENERATE ART. As Nazis MUST.

All the SAME? Try the NPR version of the same story. How about the FORWARD. STILL RACIST? This is a topic in.the NOOZE dude. Your Comments read as Obfuscation and now Ad Hominem rebuttal.

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The Christian Science Monitor is a WELL RESPECTED journal. What do you Read? The NEW YORK POST? You sound like THEIR editorial board.
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More copy/paste.
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From who? From where? AreYou ALLEGING PLAGIARISM?
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Explain it to me...Einstein.
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It's sad how much of this is over your head, but I'm not surprised.
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The argument that because the terrorists shooting these rockets had not killed as many as they hoped for somehow absolves them of guilt is beyond ludicrous.

Intent is intent, lousy aim does not alter that intent.

And there is no amount of one sided ranting that can change the fact that these terrorists are using terrorism in order to terrorize innocent non-combatants civilians.
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So a SYMBOLIC Act that harms no one....JUSTIFIES killing children (or in one case Just severe Injuries - while the Rest of the family was killed) while THEY SLEEP - in a UN School - known by the Israelis to be a shelter.

Ambulance drivers targeted by Military SNIPERS. Settler POGROMS. What WON'T you OVERLOOK?

It MAY be a LOW INTENSITY CONFLICT... and Genocidal War of attrition against a DEMOGRAPHIC INEVITABILITY, and morally Justified resolution. But that STILL qualifies as war. And in WAR...the other side SHOOTS BACK....responds to YOUR ridiculous PROVOCATIONS.

Like the series of 1000's of LAWLESS arrests - searching as if @ RANDOM (though actually targeting specifically Palestinians that had been recently released - as Part of a deal some prisoner exchange - - - thereby a double cross and betrayal) for a Kidnapping which they HAD ALREADY SOLVED. Committed by the afotemention West Bank Hamas SPLINTER CELL.

So YES - I see TERRORISM.The NAZIS accused the Jews in the Warsaw Gheto of the same kinds of crimes...

But RESISTANCE - to a NOW UNIVERSALLY RECOGNIZED illegal operating power....is NOT Terrorism the way you use it here.
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One Does not simply speak of THE LASH...
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Aww, don't cwy widdle baby,,,,
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Not particularly. But hey living well.....WINNING....that's really the best revenge, Isn't it?
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You were so busy trying to prove arabs aren't terrorists by a lame attempt to terrorize me, that you failed to notice that I used Jesus and the American flag.
Um, for a reason.

I am American.
I am Christian (non practicing, but still).
I am not right wing, left wing, a trumpite, a hillarite, or whatever you try to pretend me to be in order to invalidate your own point.

I am a realist, and reality dictates that you cannot change the past.
Israel, like America, like the West and civilization, is here, is now, and shall be long after the oil runs dry and y'all go back to eating sand,,,

Merry Christmas, yo,,,
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Butthurt is an international language,,,

Pehaps putting your energies where they might actually do something,
Not antagonize,
But save lives,,,

You know, in the real world,,,
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Erm, no. You may think that donning your super duper keyboard troll cape may be saving some imaginary toy soldiers, but, um, no.

People are dying. Not Palestinians, not Jews, not dead Jews 7 decades ago, not half of Iran a century ago so the Brits can use their food and rail for their own purposes, not the Arab, etc, proxies that died for Britain and France against Turkey in WWI or today, BUT PEOPLE.

If you really cared about you pretend to care about rather than some checker pieces on a board, you'd be over there doing something.

You can troll me all you want. To me THAT'S the game, but it won't change the fact that you do not give a crap about anybody.

Innocent civilians, Arabs (did you now there are Christian Palestinians too as well as Moslems, sorry, Muuuuuuuuuuslims - wouldn't want to offend ya?) , Israeli, foreign tourists, whatever, getting killed by anyone for no reason is wrong. I don't give a crap whose balls you lick.

Me? I say the hell with them all. Let them kill each other, there's too many people in this world anyways. Call it culling the herd.

You? You're a maggot feeding on carcasses in a blood sport game.
People like YOU are the enemy, on both sides.

PS: You would never guess what blood runs in my viens. Hint, you're closer than you think. A LOT closer. Let's put it this way, my original God is the father of your God - Jew, Christian, Moslem. Y'all aswipes need to grow the fuhck up.

You did it to my forefathers 1400 years ago, and you're still doing it now, and all you got to show for it is a pile of sand with a few olive trees sticking out,,,
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Nah...I said what I felt like needed to.
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Believe it or not, I think the meme-sphere to BE an important part of the real world...Because while you and I Don't seem to reaching each other ( though I ALWAYS hold out hope, and leave room for conversion) we ARE reaching readers, most whom don't seem to post.

And I am VETERAN organizer and activist, so...yeah way ahead of ya.To every thing a season.
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"Firstly Didn't read yours either. Which is why my reply is"

Firstly, you did did read mine also. Which is why your reply is a reply to my comment, and presumably thus a reply to what I said, point by point. Although I can't be too sure since I didn't read past that which I quoted.

In fact, you've read ALL my statements, including the one which was addressing someone else.

Why don't you get your nutsack out of the hindquarters of the nearest goat and reply to some of the more right wing elements on this site (which is the majority) who want to extirpate your ass come 1/20/17?

Cheers, fella, and a Merry Christmas & New Years to you,,,
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Do yourself a favor...and try reading SOMETHING outside your own JTS/Fox sNooze bubble. What would it hurt?

Try it...you'll like it (if you are capable of coming at an issue like this, or any other, with an open mind - and the empathy required to see things from the perspective of another).

Regardless of what your job @ the consulate requires 9-5...in your private life you can BEGIN to exemplify the Torah as Rabbi Hillel Summarized it - and as a young prince (Dan +Benjamin) once enencouraged within a parallel faith tradition.

Happy Walpurgisnacht to you and YOURS.
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^ Did not read.

There is nothing symbolic about shooting missiles at innocent civilians with the intent of killing them.

1948 was kinda a few, um, decades ago.
You can't keep trying to justify murder based on what happened then.

Besides, ask the folks in Gaza STRIP itself, how is their economy doing with its citizens not being allowed to work in Israel? You think it realistic that the US will feed and throw money at the people of that completely useless sliver of land in perpetuity? Get real, according to the Palestinians, the one thing WORSE than Israeli occupancy was Israeli withdrawal.
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Firstly Didn't read yours either. Which is why my reply is a TOTAL NON SEQUITOR - just like yours.

While I am AGAINST VIOLENT DIRECT ACTION personally. ...(Like you I agree that it is UNLAWFUL - but unlike you I guess, but not unlike every Israeli Soldier or KravMaga dude I've EVER encountered...I DO believe the circumstances may make taking violent direct action needful and proper. To Subdue an armed attacker - for instance) Not every protestor I've come across has felt that way. In my experience they are either doomed revolutionaries - or COPS posing as the same. Which is why in the Occupy Movement we continued in the development of tactics which could be used to deal with black hats in an otherwise peaceful crowd of nonviolent protestors. Personally I can't be sure that they would work in Gaza or the West Bank, and the conditions of Palestinian life and resistance.

As I recall much more recently than than 1948...PLO/PA/Arafat era. Every time the PA would round up the bad guys...the Israelis would BOMB THE JAIL....AND the police hq. Almost like they WANTED a situation of chaos. So under SUCH conditions....who could prevent armed crazies from doing things counter-productive to a just and lasting peace?

All the items previously cited were from the last round of Criminal Attacks upon Civilians in Gaza.

I am sure that the vast majority of the World.... and Palestinians, would like a just and lasting peace to resolve the conflict.

When the Thourougly terrorized people of Israel - and their Terrorist Government come around to that position...They will become less Isolated and it will be for all.

To ma SECULAR international City of Jerusalem just makes sense...unless you're LOOKING for a Fight. In which case - Temple Mount Faithful....good LUCK to ya'.

Otherwise Get with the Program. YOUR program. God's Program. Even though Kerry and Obama are selling the Palestinians short by a mile....THERE ARE LIMITS to the decent opinions of mankind.

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Oooh, careful there, you'll catch a heart attack from that butthurt,,,
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I too.resemble THAT REMARK.
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Remember, no matter how hard you try, how you pray/prey, or how much blood you spill, you will never be us.

OUR God has made this World in OUR image, and if you don't like that, pull the dang plug on your little cell phone and go tend your goats,,,
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I recall that chapter in the Old Testament...but it also sounds like it could be a Sura. You see..you folks have SO much in common. Like Argentinian and Chilean Jews that Fled. The Nazis. And have SECRETLY kept the Sabbath EVER SINCE.
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Not sure if 2 STATE solution being proposed.... Or FINAL SOLUTION