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Not if you believe in a free society.
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I wish they didn't!
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One doesn't simply pretend Christian Terror doesn't exist either.
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Yeah, that site is really fair and balanced. *eyeroll* And most of those incidents weren'teven done by Christians.
I'm guessing you're one of those progressives who say the Ku Klux Klan represent Christians. Lol!
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I suspected you would call that site "liberal bias", but to quote you in one of our debates, where you mentioned I would call out conservative bias, "facts are facts."
I don't think he KKK represent Christians, and neither do I think ISIS represents Muslims. If ISIS did represent Muslims, than the KKK should represent Christians as well.
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I've read both the Bible and the Qur'an and idea that Islam is a peaceful religion is ludicrous.
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The Bible hasn't been pleasant for me to look through. Sure, the Qur'an/Koran/Muslim book isn't that peaceful, and it contains similar elements to the Bible. First off, monotheistic. Basic stuff. Secondly, god that prefers to be in front of others. ("Allah is the greatest", for Muslims; "Thou shalt have no other gods.", for Christians.)
The fact that you said the Christian terrorists "aren't Christian" means nothing because you have overused the phrase so much that no one can possibly be Christian. Donald Drumpf really couldn't: He embodies the 7 Deadly Sins.
If you bring up about how Muslims deny ISIS being Muslim is just the same as denying Pat Robertson is Christian, just do remember that you have said "not Christian" just about anyone, whilst peaceful Muslims mainly defend themselves from ISIS and Al Qaeda, not everyone else.
Maybe the site I sent you was liberal biased, but at least it wasn't LGBTQ Nation. The bias is in the name. Imagine if I sent you a link from that site. It's the site I mainly use to learn about attacks on the transgender community.
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Jesus was not only the Son of God, but also referred to as a prophet, just as Muhammad was a prophet in the Muslim faith. However, both were drastically different in their lifestyles.
While Jesus was perfect (Him being the Son of God and all), Muhammad was not. Muhammad was merely a man given prophet status by his followers. He was a rapist, a child molester, and an all out murderer. If you deny this fact, you're just denying history in this matter. He married a 6 year old girl and continually **ped her, while also having many other young "wives."
According to Islamic rules, it is okay for a man to violently **pe his wife, because she is his property and he has the right to do what he will with her and no one can say otherwise. This is how they view women...lower than dogs. It is very evident in the Middle East and Europe. And even some parts of this country where Islam is wider spread.
Jesus taught love and compassion, while still condemning sin and man's sinful nature. Muhammad did the polar opposite. Muhammad told his followers to "start wars" against your enemies (enemies being Christians mainly).
Many non Christians will site the Old Testament as proof that God promoted violence. While some of it is true, you must understand that the Old Testament was before Christ came to Earth as man to die for our sins. Things were drastically different in those days. God would have one army wipe out another civilization as punishment for wicked sins committed by those people.
And as for Trump being Christian...I never said he was and I never said he acted like it.
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By modern day, Western standards, many things in the Koran are seen as horrific and brutal. But the same goes for the Bible. I read things in the Bible which disturb me greatly.
As far as God using the Israelites to wipe out "wicked" nations, that is just rationalizing genocide. Can you think of any nation that exists today that is so wicked, you would be okay with the US Army going in and killing everybody, even toddlers and babies? Probably not (I sure hope not, anyway). But that's what the Israelites did. They killed every last person, babies, livestock, etc. That is genocide and extermination no matter how much you try to justify it. It is wrong today and it was wrong back then.
If God commands it, it isn't wrong. As I already mentioned, what happened in the old testament doesn't apply to today. This was waybefore Christ came to earth as a man to spread His teachings of love and compassion.
No, it is not right for mass genocide today. Of everything you might think the Jews are guilty of, think about the crap they have had to go through ever since they cursed by God. They turned their back on God and they have been paying for it in excess ever since. Just about everyone wishes to wipe them off the face of the planet.
I realise you're an atheist, but it still doesn't negate the fact that Israel is a hated nation by the majority of the planet.
I hope you don't see this as double-teaming you in any way, but I wanted to bring up something in addition to SpursFan's comment (although I agree with most of what he wrote) that I think is also worth thinking about (if that's okay).
It's this idea: since God is the Creator and giver of life, he remains sovereign over all life, and it's always his to do with as he sees fit. His judgments about when people should live or die are never wrong.
So comparing God's wiping out of certain nations to genocide or any kind of wrongdoing is a category error. It's not a fair comparison, because it's not the same thing. If a human being takes it upon themselves to commit genocide, that's evil, because they don't have the authority to do that. But when God decides to take a human life or wipe out a nation, it's him exercising his judgment as a Creator, which is always fitting for him to do. Whatever instruments he uses is up to him. Do you see the difference? I hope you do.
I do understand that from an atheist's perspective, if God does not truly exist, then the genocides by the Israelites of other nations would indeed seem like an atrocity comparable to other genocides. If that were the case, then the comparison would be understandable. However, that's not a valid way to reason, since it assumes something which hasn't been proven. The comparison only works if God doesn't actually exist. If God exists, then it would change everything (including whether or not it's okay for a nation to be put to death, and why).
Sorry for the long comment.
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