Disney: not a fan of logic or Star Wars apparently

Correct, how is getting lift? If by engine fine, but those two big ass vertical wings? No, I'm.sorry, that doesn't work in air!

The TIE uses repulsorlifts/antigrav to fly in atmosphere and it can do so, just slowly. It would be shit in a dogfight in atmosphere. Wind/drag would constantly be pushing it side to side despite the repulsorlifts/antigrav. And the TIE flying around snowy peaks would be even more difficult.

The X-Wings are at least designed to resemble Earth fighter jets, so it's got relatively good aerodynamics.

The other thing is I'm sure the pilots would tend to fight in space than on a planet with these types of fighters. That's why the Rebels used snowspeeders instead of X-Wings on Hoth for crying out loud. lol

This should all stick out like a sore thumb to anyone who watched the OT, and especially so to anyone who was into the EU. :)

Yea, only slowly in the air, the TIE (Twin Ion Engine) those wings would catch a shit load of wind, among other things!

The old saying about TIEs is that if you sneeze on one or look at it the wrong way it will explode. lol :)

Yea, like my brother's old Dodge truck! Lol

The new Dodge TIE Fighter! Just don't look at it wrong or sneeze on/in it. lol :)

Ha ha!! Don't give those idiots any ideas!! Lol

lol I though this was pretty cool: https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2177/2198385614_3b9daf7599.jpg

This idiot just filed a patent... See who's laughing when your neighbour buys one. I actually would suggest moving, because your neighbour might be a redneck sociopath...

These aren't the memes you're looking for, troll along. :)

Not a troll. I'm probably just not funny... Sorry, it was actually meant as a joke.

And why do I care about this again?

They must be safe because no storm trooper was ever able to shoot one down in the field tests...

Gravity engine. More questions?

But Giorgio, their extraterrestrial humans. Duh duh duh!!! :)

Heck, you could have gotten me with a grammar/spelling Nazi with the difference between they're and their. lol :)

lmao

To be politically correct, they don't refer to themselves as aliens. But, yes, aliens.

I know

You don't know. You are made to believe you know. It's ok. They,'re only here to harvest.

They call themselves humans and speak Basic(English) actually. lol :)

Deal with it

With physics? Or Disney's lack of logic? IT could be anything. lol :)

Are you seriously questioning the lack of logic in cartoons? Wow, what else it's going on in your life :)?

There is truth in fiction and fiction in truth. So... :)

As long as we know the difference ... Otherwise we start shooting up movie theatres dressed up as the Joker... Too soon?

If you're trolling me and my memes I'd suggest wasting your time doing more constructive things. Like making memes. :)

My retort:

I'm pretty sure you're wrong. Cross winds only occur, per definition, on landing or take off, so you probably mean wind shear. If you line up with the wind direction you'd be fine. Snowy mountains actually are a good thing, the elevation reduces atmospheric effects and the cold reduces the instability of thermal events. So in my opinion, that tie, not even assuming it's using some gravity engine, would be fine. But you know, I always thought my phd didn't matter anyway. I hope you get the underlying tone of my reply and hope it makes you smile as much as I did reading yours...

Ask tetsuoswrath about that, he has read all the background on that. He was kinda filling me in on backstory things. I'm sure he'd love to talk about it, it's obviously a passion for him. :)

Yes indeed. Nothing more productive than proving movie physics. Superman was my next project, but I am having difficulties producing Kryptonite. You Rock Evil!

Ha ha!! Thank you. Now, isn't there Kryptonite gas? If I remember correctly (I graduated high school.in 1992) there is a element called Kryptonite, right? ( I feel silly asking, but not asking is stupid! :)

According to Jerry Siegel it's a mineral, but given the fact it's not real, and maybe you should sue your high school for making you study an imaginary compound, if you want it to be a gas, I have no problem with that. At one point most solids turn into a gas anyway, especially imaginary ones, so you are not breaking any laws of Marvel physics. Well done, you!

Yes!!!! I'm still brilliant!! In an imaginary way, but I'm still brilliant!! Lol. :) I'm cracking up,.you're too funny! .;)

I suppose you mean shiny. So you are shiny, possibly exposing your shinyness in public. I worry about you. (J/k)

Consider this, I might be imaginary... And you're being spoon fed as we talk (are we talking?)... Indeed, will you take the red pill, or the blue pill? Or should I?

Brilliant actually means shiny, so unless you oiled up for the occasion, I would suggest a shower. But that's none of my business...

And I say this with the utmost respect ... It sounds sarcastic, but it was not intended. Believe me, you'd know.

Yes, of course we're talking, I totally forgot what each pill did, but, I want the one where I know the truth, I'm a terrible sheeple!

I believe the red one is where people start shooting and you can bend yourself like Miley Cyrus on a bad day...

Alex, i'll take "Bending yourself like Miley Cyrus on a bad day" for $1000!

I think the lesson to be learned is that Miley can get away with it, and you'd be enjoying cold showers for indecent exposure on a building site.

Actually the definition of cross wind is wind blowing across your direction of travel. So I was right. Because I'm mainly saying two things about the TIE's wings in atmosphere. 1) That cross wind from the sides would constantly shake the craft left and right. I get that the TIE's have repulsor fields/lifts to keep them afloat and to move them forward through atmosphere/etc., but they would still be jarred, especially around snowy mountains. Why do you think helicopters have such a tough time around snowy peaks? And 2) that same wind and also drag would push against the inner parts of the wings creating a lot of structural stress and would more than likely damage the wings from aerial acrobatic dogfights.

Another point I had made was that the Rebles were smart enough to use the Snowspeeders at the Battle of Hoth instead of X-Wings. 1) because they were better adapted to cold and 2) that they were obviously meant to fly at high speeds in atmosphere. I don't think the X-Wings would have a problem though since they are fairly aerodynamic, it's just mainly the cold that effect them. But they do both fly in the cold of space so maybe they'd be fine in a winter atmosphere like we saw in the trailer. But that doesn't excuse the stupidity of using the flat winged TIE/LN's. lol

As for Kyptonite, there is an element on the periodic table called Kyrpton(Kr 36). Also, Superman is DC, not Marvel. How dare you sir. lol

Brilliant also means exceptionally clever or intelligent though. So... :)

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I will only apologise for the Marvel ef-up, because I actually knew, but was too lazy to correct it. Now... Where do I start to completely tear up your rhetoric...?

My definition of cross wind is actually accurate, as I even started that being parallel with it the "wind shear" should pose no problem. Cross winds are only called cross winds on landing or take off. I'm not a commercial pilot, but I've flown the occasional Boeing.

Man I was going to do the 1,2,3 stuff but I guess I already screwed that up.

So, 2) helicopters have problems in mountainous areas due to the thin air. Not cross winds (which by definition don't occur) or shear winds. Physics 101 imho

3) I haven't seen the structural plans of aTie but wind is not their biggest problem, the fact they can't fly at all is. Unless they use a gravity engine, popularly and wrongly called anti-gravity engine, we are discussing the degree of flatness of this planet.

Here we go, 4) what you call aerodynamic, I call the opposite. Let me use this opportunity to show off ;) because there are not many conversations where one can simply mention they constructed an F1 testing wind tunnel. (Marsdorf, Germany) so thanks ;)

Right, 5) You have absolutely dazzled me. Kr(36) is real, and therefore I assume superman, not the Marvel one, is real too. To be honest, I would have lost a bet on that... Krypton ...

6) I'm not shiny, but I'm brilliant.

So basically, you are right on most points, apart from the Tie stuff. But that's ok. You tried. (Just lol'ing.)

I'm sure there's a 7... Oh yes. 7)

*sigh

Google crosswind please. You'll get this:

cross·wind
?krôs?wind/
noun
noun: crosswind; plural noun: crosswinds; noun: cross-wind; plural noun: cross-winds

a wind blowing across one's direction of travel.

So no, you were wrong, and I'm still right. The crosswind from the mountains would make flying one of the TIE/LNs unfeasible.

*rolls eyes at how asinine your comment is turning out. Helicopters are affected by crosswinds from mountainous regions as well. I'm starting to see that you're sort of a contrarian.

*sighs harder at your lack of knowledge about SW but how you still try and argue it. TIE's use repulsors like ALL SW craft to "fly" in atmosphere. And yes in SW they also refer to repulsors as "antigrav". You're also starting to sound like you're typing whatever you can to SOUND intelligent. ROFL!

Your sixth paragraph doesn't actually state anything other than you disagree with me that something was aerodynamic. Great debating skills kid. lol

I wasn't saying that the RL Krypton is anything to do with the fictional kryptonite though, jsut pointing out that it does indeed exist like EMDE was getting at with his comment.

You can't even admit when you're wrong apparently, as you're still trying to make it LOOK like I was wrong on the TIE conundrum. Again, you are such a skilled debater kid. lol

If you're going to troll me memes all I can say is you're wasting your time. :)

I'm not trolling. And I'm not a "kid". Probably your age times two and somewhat. My friend, I had drinks with Feynman before you were born, and if you think you can lecture me on physics, please do so. I was just having fun. But if you you really are interested, I actually have two phd's, in physics. And i actually worked for Boeing, and NASA just to name some to be more spectacular... I'm not a troll... Just old, my dear. Only want to smile. That's it...

And I upvoted all your memes because I actually liked them. So def not trolling. And when you use difficult words, please use them appropriately. Ok. That was a burn. But you deserved it. I honestly like your memes, but don't attack me, especially when you are talking rubbish.

Whoa whoa kid. You didn't even use the word crosswind right at all. So calm the f**k down.

My last meme comment was to point out how bullshit it is that you think by saying you have degrees in something proves you know something. That's something most trolls do also, so hence suspicion.

How would I know if you're not what you say you are? I mean, you don't get the simple and obvious truth to what I'm saying about the TIE's flight through an atmosphere.

The TIE would be blown around despite having repulsors(antigrav). It would be useless in dogfights in atmosphere. In ROTJ the Empire had the bent winged TIE Interceptors. Why not use them? Because Disney is forcing nostalgia on people to like the film. They don't care about the fans. F**k Disney. And f**k their fan fic Force Awakens. *yawn :)

Agree. But don't call me kid sweety. And degrees don't mean a thing. So I agree, again. But puh-lease, do NOT lecture me on physics .... I am happy to give you my creds, we should skype. Not because I think I'm somehow special, I'm not, just so I can show you you aren't either. Man, chill. I'm actually turning 91 in December so to paraphrase a black beauty, ain't nobody got time for that... How the f**k did you think I met R.P. F. in the first place. Son, I told you I'm old, not stupid.

ROFL! I call bullshit kid. Nice try though. These aren't the memes you're looking for, troll along. :)

What do you have? Let me guess, you live with your mum? A degree in burger flipping? Please DO correct me. And please go on and tell me about physics, you put a smile on my face the first time. It's very cute, your understanding of it.

ROFL! Keep trying troll. :)

Did you work there, I did ... Or should I say extra mayo with that? Make my day, please tell me what your job is. I have a feeling it's Reaallly important.

ROFL! I could just google names of people involved in Nasa and say I met/worked with them, etc. Dumbass. :)

THAT impressed you? I had drinks with Feynman. Get a life.

lol Look at it try. Who would even give a shit if you had drinks with anyone important? lol

You don't even know who it is. And that makes ME look stupid. You are indeed funny.

Parallel computing, clusters... Yeah, we did that. Correction. We invented that. Call me a troll. Or take the time to check me out. R.M.E., better chance of finding me as E.R.M., Oxford Phd, MIT, phd, and lecturing at Princeton, but that is long ago. I'm one of those ghosts I suppose. Soon to expire. And you call me a troll. I admit, I'm not always likable, ha, but not a troll. Just for my amusement, what is your job?

Look at it try and troll me. How quaint. lol I laugh in your general direction sir! :)

I'm not. So what's your job again?

Is it important? Do you believe you are important. I can tell you, you are not. And please do tell me about your physics again. I forwarded your knowledge to some friends and we are considering making t-shirts with your wisdom...

OMG I'm so scared. People are smarter than you think kid. These aren't the memes you're looking for, troll along. :)

I have no clue who or what the dough boy is. So what's your job again? Does it involve living with your mum?

Yeah you're obviously a 91 year old physicist with 2 PHD's. ROFL! Troll along kid. :)